Dienekes: Clusters galore: extremely fine-scale ancestry inference
Rienzi fumes about Dienekes' description of his own efforts as "cutting edge" and explains:
In my opinion, Dienekes and Doug McDonald and Polako should be commended for attempting to further our understanding of human genetic diversity. They are trying to broaden our understanding. Hopefully, all three gentlemen are self-aware enough to know that their "findings" are at best tentative, should be interpreted cautiously, and await confirmation in the literature.This is not how science works. Anyone can download the software and reference data Dienekes is playing with and attempt to verify or impugn his results. Certainly some amateurs make ridiculous claims based on faulty analyses. So do some commercial entities and published academics. If you're not able to assess Dienekes' work on it's own merits, you're not in a better position to do so with comparable research merely because it has passed "peer review". One can certainly choose to ignore results generated by amateurs if one pleases, but choosing to do so has no bearing on the validity of the results.
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Another theory on the origin of blond hair:
Many traits have been investigated for their role in attractiveness, but one question has repeatedly captured the attention of researchers down the years – why do many men prefer blondes? Over time, many explanations have been put forward. It has been suggested that men prefer rounder faces and that blonde hair is kinder to the outline of the face, or that natural blondes have softer skin, which men find attractive. Another suggestion is that blondes were a genetic mutation which men evolved to value as a status symbol because of the original scarcity.Genetic Evidence for Multiple Biological Mechanisms Underlying In-Group Favoritism
But according to research out of the University of California, the answer is that blonde hair, like the peacock's tail or the rooster's bright-red plumage, is a sign of fitness. The evolutionary reason why men are attracted to blondes is that the hair and skin colour make it easier to spot problems. Anaemia, jaundice, skin infections, cyanosis (a sign of heart disease) and some other conditions, are, these researchers say, much easier to detect in fair-skinned individuals than in brunettes.
The best-fitting model revealed that a biological mechanism facilitates affiliation with arbitrary groups and exists alongside essentialist systems that evolved to process salient cues, such as shared beliefs and ancestry.
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Study: Vikings May Have Taken a Native American to Iceland, regarding the that recent C1 news, currently shows as #5 on TIME's Most Popular list. It links Viking Culture: Norse History Includes Violence, Democracy, first published in 2000, which is ranked #2.
I wonder what sort of publicity and how many retractions there will be when European C1s are eventually sequenced and it is demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt -- not that there is much now -- that Icelandic C1 comes from Europe.
The TIME article concludes:
Though unlikely, the presence of the C1 lineage could indicate that it originated in those ancient populations who dispersed from Europe into Asia and the Americas. In other words, instead of a single American Indian carrying the lineage to Europe, it may have risen out of primitive Europe and migrated to different parts of the world. "If that's the case, we'd be talking about 14,000 years ago," says Helgason. "So even if we're wrong about this one Amerindian woman, the other answer would be even more spectacular."
"Spectacular", as in "spectacularly swiftly stuffed down the memory hole".
Rienzi's meltdown is imminent, he's fighting more with his own kind and "Orientalists" than with Nordicists anymore. That's too funny.
...he's fighting more with his own kind and "Orientalists"...
Who is he fighting with lately?
The best-fitting model revealed that a biological mechanism facilitates affiliation with arbitrary groups and exists alongside essentialist systems that evolved to process salient cues, such as shared beliefs and ancestry.
That's essentially Maslowian. Maslow was always a vastly better predictor of human action than any race theorist (eg Desmond Jones pushing the "EGI" line). Of course, race can form the basis of group affiliation and is particularly good at doing so because, aside from or in addition to anything else, it's simply "right there" -- and because it is "right there" for evolutionary reasons it has historically often formed precisely such a basis. But history also demonstrates that it's not particularly difficult to dislodge it.
"Spectacular", as in "spectacularly swiftly stuffed down the memory hole".
Maybe. But also spectacular in its own right. So choke on that.
Silver peddling lefty anti-racism? Well color me surprised (not).
The evolutionary reason why men are attracted to blondes is that the hair and skin colour make it easier to spot problems. Anaemia, jaundice, skin infections, cyanosis (a sign of heart disease) and some other conditions, are, these researchers say, much easier to detect in fair-skinned individuals than in brunettes.
This always seemed like the most probable reason to me, though I have never seen it cited anywhere (is there an obvious flaw with it?). Less melanin and you have a clearer ""dashboard" to see signals of health, so people who are both healthy and are clearly giving an honest signal will have a selective advantage in the battle for mates. Thus the rise of light skin in those areas where it is not offset by the need to have melanin to protect against skin damage (that will cause observers to down rate your health regardless of its general state).
Most people in my experience don't consider this as they've got distracted by and fixated on this idea that pale skin is unhealthy sui generis (for some stupid pop cult reason that has to do with anti-racism and anti-White supremacy IMO), without realising that historically White Europeans have strongly distinguished between "pasty" and "fair" skin, with the former perhaps having a low status relative to darker skins (because a clear negative signal is worse than an ambiguous one?) while the latter have a clearly higher status than dark skins (because a clear positive signal is better than an ambiguous one).
It'd be interesting to compare with other primates with as developed a visual system as us (though our particular sensory configuration is somewhat its own thing, admittedly). See if there's a trend of primates moving towards lighter facial skin once constraints are removed.
Maslow's entire foundation is driven by his self-interest encapsulated within his Jewish identity.
"Maslow: With my childhood, it's a wonder I'm not psychotic. I was the little Jewish boy in the non-Jewish neighborhood. It was a little like being the first Negro enrolled in the all-white school. I grew up in libraries and among books, without friends."
The highest level of his psychological pyramid emphasizes self-actualization, a major component of which is lack of prejudice. For Maslow, racial prejudice is evil, a neurosis, "a sickness", a demon to be vanquished and banished.
"Maslow: Evil is caused by ignorance, thoughtlessness, fear, or even the desire for popularity with one's gang. We can cure many such causes of evil. Science is progressing, and I feel hope that psychology can solve many of these problems. I think that a good part of evil behavior bears on the behavior of the normal."
Rienzi's meltdown is imminent, he's fighting more with his own kind and "Orientalists" than with Nordicists anymore. That's too funny.
Does Rienzi have a blog?
The evolutionary reason why men are attracted to blondes is that the hair and skin colour make it easier to spot problems.
I don't see how this necessarily applies to blondes, perhaps blondism or depigmentation in general. Most people who have this skin type are Northern European brunets. So you could say the same thing about redheads, brunets and blonds in Northern and Central Europe. Less so with Southern Europeans and West Asians that have more skin pigmentation and even when they're light-skinned they tend to have less ruddiness and more of a pallid, greyish or yellowish tone, as do Northeast Asians.
"Rienzi's meltdown is imminent, he's fighting more with his own kind and "Orientalists" than with Nordicists anymore. That's too funny."
In fairness, Rienzi is correct about the level of retardation at anthroscape. The funny part is he's chosen to come out in defense of perhaps the dumbest member there.
"Does Rienzi have a blog?"
See links in post.
"Maslow: With my childhood, it's a wonder I'm not psychotic. I was the little Jewish boy in the non-Jewish neighborhood. It was a little like being the first Negro enrolled in the all-white school. I grew up in libraries and among books, without friends."
I remember reading that on his wiki page and thinking, ah, I can relate, Mr. Maslow, I can relate. Although in my case it was even worse because I took fire from both ends, and in fact my coethnics hated and tormented me much more than the english kids (because I didn't live near them, speak like them or share similar interests, and made it clear that I didn't. "You don't like xyz...? What's wrong with you? Hey, this guy doesn't like xyz!! You're a fuckin' loser, Silver!").
You're quite right that such formative experiences can go a long way to shaping our worldviews. For instance, I'd say a sense of retribution played some part in my support of Clinton's bombing some humility into serbian chauvinists, particularly when I would see them march in protest to whine that, like all nationalists, they have been uniquely wronged (a sense simultaneously buttressed by awareness that the American white right stood against it, so it can't be a bad thing, and tempered by the knowledge that the albanians were no better themselves, and probably much worse).
Nevertheless, it's a total stretch to say that, "Maslow's entire foundation is driven by his self-interest encapsulated within his Jewish identity."
It's incredible how blinded by hatred you are: ad hominem bluster that would never pass muster in any other setting is uttered without a hint of shame in full expectation that it will be regarded as the last word on the matter. (But somehow it's The Jew's fault that you're so rarely taken seriously.)
Continuing...
However, even if you're correct about Maslow's motivation, that says nothing about the validity of his theories.
The highest level of his psychological pyramid emphasizes self-actualization, a major component of which is lack of prejudice. For Maslow, racial prejudice is evil, a neurosis, "a sickness", a demon to be vanquished and banished.
Firstly, a desire to banish prejudice isn't unique to Maslow. Many who have emancipated themselves from ethnic belonging have wanted to share the "good news" with the world.
Secondly, banishing racial prejudice isn't essential to his theory; it can be safely excised while leaving the great bulk of it intact.
Thirdly, Maslow isn't entirely wrong about racial prejudice being "a sickness." We can assume he meant any degree of prejudice, in which case I would totally disagree. But I would argue that the degree of racial loathing commonly found among members of the white right does begin to border (to say the least) on neurosis. Take yourself, for example. If you and I were eating lunch in a diner it would be my mere presence (not anything I said or did) that would cause you to curse the fates that conspired to make such an event possible. Think of it: you...having to eat lunch in the presence of this...this...piece of subhuman shit. Right? Well then, since it's possible to surmount such feelings it seems only reasonable to question the mental health of someone who insists on wallowing in them.
"Maslow: Evil is caused by ignorance, thoughtlessness, fear, or even the desire for popularity with one's gang. We can cure many such causes of evil. Science is progressing, and I feel hope that psychology can solve many of these problems. I think that a good part of evil behavior bears on the behavior of the normal."
If we just alter that slightly so that it reads, "Evil is often caused by..." what exactly would be your problem with it? Might it be that you'd have it that anything done in the name of race cannot, by definition, be evil? Ignorance -- be it lack of knowledge or false belief -- is often bliss for the racist, so it's no surprise that he rails against a world that has succeeded in humanizing the other.
I'd say a sense of retribution played some part in my support of Clinton's bombing some humility into serbian chauvinists
So Silver admits to enjoying the bombing of his own people merely because he was picked on. Damn, it's worse than we thought. You've got some serious issues.
However, even if you're correct about Maslow's motivation (and that it constitutes his "entire foundation"), that says nothing about the validity of his theories.
The highest level of his psychological pyramid emphasizes self-actualization, a major component of which is lack of prejudice. For Maslow, racial prejudice is evil, a neurosis, "a sickness", a demon to be vanquished and banished.
Firstly, a desire to banish prejudice isn't unique to Maslow. Many who have emancipated themselves from ethnic belonging have wanted to share the "good news" with the world.
Secondly, banishing racial prejudice isn't essential to his theory; it can be safely excised while leaving the great bulk of it intact.
Thirdly, Maslow isn't entirely wrong about racial prejudice being "a sickness." We can assume he meant any degree of prejudice, in which case I would totally disagree. But I would argue that the degree of racial loathing commonly found among members of the white right does begin to border (to say the least) on neurosis. Take yourself, for example. If you and I were eating lunch in a diner it would be my mere presence (not anything I said or did) that would cause you to curse the fates that conspired to make such an event possible. Think of it: you...having to eat lunch in the presence of this...this...piece of subhuman shit. Right? Well then, since it's possible to surmount such feelings it seems only reasonable to question the mental health of someone who insists on wallowing in them.
"Maslow: Evil is caused by ignorance, thoughtlessness, fear, or even the desire for popularity with one's gang. We can cure many such causes of evil."
If we just alter that slightly so that it reads, "Evil is often caused by..." what exactly would be your problem with it? Might it be that you'd have it that anything done in the name of race cannot, by definition, be evil? Ignorance -- be it lack of knowledge or false belief -- is often bliss for the racist, so it's no surprise that he rails against a world that has succeeded in humanizing the other.
So Silver admits to enjoying the bombing of his own people merely because he was picked on.
Not just picked on. Picked on for reasons similar to those that motivated serbian chauvinists during the wars of succession: you're different; you suck because you're different; and because you suck you should be made to suffer -- if you didn't suck, if you weren't so worthless, your feelings might matter, but because you do and are, we can ignore your feelings. That's oppositional ethnocentrism (and on an individual level, status seeking self-centeredness) in a nutshell.
I also admitted to a sense of retribution playing a part. Obviously that was outweighed by more rational (though in some way still decidedly emotional -- that's built into being human)assessments and calculations. No surprise you'd attempt to twist my words.
Damn, it's worse than we thought.
As a matter of fact, it's actually much better than you thought. Why? Well, if I can (continue to) think this way and still support racial goals there's reason to think others could come around too. Not exactly "WN," for sure. But if I'm your opposition half the game's already won.
There wasn't much evidence for Maslow's hierarchy.
Teedge, I read and disregarded that back when you posted it. It's the conceptual framework that's important to me. What sorts of things motivate human action? Can they be sorted into coherent classes? In the main do certain of these tend to take priority over others? Does analyzing human behavior in such a way clarify or obscure goings on?
Taking those questions into account Maslow makes a lot of sense. But of course we can quibble. The categories blend into each other. Martyrs may prefer to starve rather than compromise their principles. Etc. But in the main is more being elucidated than obscured? I would say unquestionably so (and just because it's obvious in hindsight doesn't mean it's obvious in foresight).
And in the sense in which I invoked Maslow ("essentially Maslowian") the idea that people will affiliate themselves with (and devote themselves to) somewhat arbitrary (at least non-genetic or non-racial) groups in order satisfy a yearning to belong quite clearly satisfies the condition of elucidating more than it obscures. Contrast that to racialist theories of human behavior and you'll see they obscure at least much as they elucidate. There's a whole host of human behavior that baffles racialists which they cannot explain without recourse to The Jew, the brain-washer and puppet master behind everything they dislike.
"Picked on..."
It's called freedom of association.
For Maslow and Silver and all those others who are rejected, for whatever reason or no reason at all, denying freedom is essential. The strategy is to invoke sympathy and then classify it, freedom, the non-kinship based reciprocity, evolved almost exclusively by Wasps, as evil. It's most effectively accomplished by embracing the other. In Maslow's case he uses the Negro, because if he used the example of his Jewishness he would be suspect of advancing his interest and his group's interest. Ditto Silver, he uses Maslow and his Jewishness and proclaims, "Oh, the poor Jew." "I can relate."
It, of course, leads to another conundrum. If there is such an abiding evil in the desire to freely associate, why do they stay and live amongst the evil?
J.S Mill...
"One hardly knows what any division of the human race should be free to do if not to determine with which of the various collective bodies of human beings they choose to associate themselves.
But, when a people are ripe for free institutions, there is a still more vital consideration. Free institutions are next to impossible in a country made up of different nationalities. Among a people without fellow-feeling, especially if they read and speak different languages, the united public opinion, necessary to the working of representative government, cannot exist."
Our greatest moral act, as a moral people,is to show sympathy for the Silvers and Maslows of the world. In that vain, the greatest act of charity that can be bestowed upon them is one of exclusion. For in that way the act of freedom will not grow as a neurosis in them, for clearly they have not evolved the traits to embrace it.
It's called freedom of association.
Rofl, case in point! Minutes after arguing that a great deal of human behavior baffles racialists a racialist pops up to shoehorn age old human behavior into his racialist paradigm.
Apart from some isolated aggressive incidents, most of the "picking on" I'm referring to here was by friends. Not "friends" in quotes, actual friends, who lived in the same street, who'd be at my house nearly every day. You get upset with someone, you call him a racial name (which is often the closest thing at hand), then you get over it and you're back to being friends again. Good luck working your "freedom of association" motivation into this.
For Maslow and Silver and all those others who are rejected, for whatever reason or no reason at all, denying freedom is essential.
Allowing that there are some who continue to see it that way, if it's "essential" to me to deny (presumably in perpetuity) it how is it I'm out there making an explicit case for it?
It, of course, leads to another conundrum. If there is such an abiding evil in the desire to freely associate, why do they stay and live amongst the evil?
Because there's often nowhere obvious to go. In my case, I had a "homeland" to return to, but, as I've related, the experience was culturally (not economically, since I knew what to expect) completely underwhelming.
Secondly, and much more importantly, no one ever thinks to question the propriety of the circumstances of his birth. Generally, if another has a problem with one's very existence the immediate assumption (which quickly grows into an iron conviction) is that the reasons the other advances for having a problem are themselves wrong, not that one's existence is wrong. What else could you possibly expect, desmond? "Oh gosh, you're right! By my very presence I threaten to initiate a chain of events that will lead to your complete dispossession and extinction. Quick, someone give me a sword to fall on!" What planet are you living on?
And for poor little Silver "WN" is The Jew.
Secondly, and much more importantly, no one ever thinks to question the propriety of the circumstances of his birth.
But some self-righteous prick did. 'Cause the de jure position was wogs over there and cakes over here. No swords, no falling. However, it was not good enough for some wogs because they had a hankerin' for what the cakes had. Why? It was much less 'completely underwhelming'. In other words it was superior. And fundamentally therein lies the difference. We want what you have and me and my buddy Maslow are gonna take it, one way or the other.
Angelo Principe wrote in The Darkest Side Of The Fascist Years:
"...in Canada as in Italy, Italians and Jews got along well together...Italians and Jews worked in the needle industry and garment trades both in Montreal and Toronto and both communities experienced discrimination by Canadian nativists, Anglo-Saxon right wingers and the militant Orange Order...Jewish and Italian women often baby-sat for each other and, thus, some Italian-Canadian children could function in Yiddish…
A splendid example of their good relations was the Italian participation on the side of the Jews in the Christie Pits Park riot in 1933. Stimulated by Hitler’s anti-semitism in Germany, some right wing Canadian youths created a Swastika Club in Toronto and practised discrimination and sometimes even engaged in violence against Jews. Christie Pits Park at the junction of Bloor and Christie Streets on the city’s west side was the theatre of violent fights between boys of the Swastika Club and Jews in the summer of 1933. Scores of Italian boys went to help their Jewish friends and one of the participants recalled that he was the only Jew in a truckload of Italian boys rushing to Christie Pits."
Hardly falling on your sword.
But some self-righteous prick did. 'Cause the de jure position was wogs over there and cakes over here. No swords, no falling. However, it was not good enough for some wogs because they had a hankerin' for what the cakes had. Why? It was much less 'completely underwhelming'. In other words it was superior. And fundamentally therein lies the difference. We want what you have and me and my buddy Maslow are gonna take it, one way or the other.
That doesn't really address the point I was making. And while I can accept the essence of the point you're making above, I will point out that you're failing to put it into context.
These were people granted right of abode on the basis that they were "white" (or "white enough" in politicians' minds). If you're going to grant people right of abode on that basis then it's really not surprising that once there, once they'd gotten the lay of the land, they'd start to press for better treatment on that basis. That's a much more accurate description than it being some ploy to get what you have.
Why does any of this matter so much that you have to constantly quote that Principe passage like it's some invincible trump card? That was then, this is now. A lot of us were sucked into believing an unequivocally better world -- who ever considered trade-offs? -- would result if we could but vanquish racial discrimination.
Initially it seemed to be so. The cakers seemed to lower their guard, so we could lower ours, and it seemed to work fairly well. I've never witnessed violent outrage at the presence of gooks on the part of even skeptical wogs the way I have with cakers, for example, so that too seemed evidence in favor anti-discrimination.
But the mounting evidence before my eyes is that not discriminating against another is no guarantee that he won't discriminate against you (depending on who he is, not uncommonly rather violently, and much more violently than you ever would have against him); and, more importantly, that even if both sides do not discriminate racially, the resultant social interactions don't really compare to the quality of those that take place with our own kind.
Then to cap it all off is the realization that not only does it promise to be a more alienating, less cohesive world, it also means the extinction of various europid racial particulars, the extinction of self-kind; first you, I would imagine, but not far behind, us (even though to hear you people tell it we're already fatally compromised, so why resist further mixing...Bwahaha etc). (And of course, there's also what I regard as the most pointed argument: even if you think mass diversity is in general a blessing, is it so good that the dispossession and eventual extinction of your own is a price worth paying for it?)
So, really, when you get down to it, you can be as "right" about the past as you like. To me it's pointless and meaningless. I wasn't born then. I had no say in what transpired then. I can only deal with the situation as I find it out now. And that means that even though I do not at all like what the harder-edged "nazis" stand for (if we each had our magic wand the world they'd conjure up would be starkly different to the one I would) there's enough common ground to permit (temporary) alliances to be forged.
"they'd start to press for better treatment on that basis."
Exactly, and that is why the Principe point is so pertinent. The Italians had no dog in the fight. The Jews were not blameless, but for you it will always be, who we are not what we do. No, it was all about self-interest and it will never abate.
Mark Richardson made the same point during the Cronulla Beach riots. The Greeks and and Italians (third/fourth generation?) he taught were anxious to get into the fight...on the side of the Lebs. It will never change.
"Silver said...
I would imagine, but not far behind, us"
Yeah right, what about all these swarthoids?
Italians, Morrocans, Algerians, Turks, Tunisians, Egyptians, Spaniards, Portugacks, Argentinians, Brazilians, Chileans, Cubans, Greeks, Armenians, Georgians, Albanians, Cypriots, Macedonians, Kosovars, Chechens, Romanians, Corsicans, Malteses, Occitanians, Basques, Croatians, Bulgarians, Slovenians, Hungarians, Serbians, Iraqis, Lebaneses, Syrians, Palestinians, Israelis, Jordanians, Yemenites, Iranians, Indus, Saudi Arabians, Azerbaijanis, Kurds, Libyans, Cretans, Montenegrins, Bosnians, Herzegovinians, Omanis, Pakistanis.
Don't worry Silver, the swarthoid mongrels can not disappear trough mongrelization for the swarthoids existence's is mongrelization!
"Silver said...
(And of course, there's also what I regard as the most pointed argument: even if you think mass diversity is in general a blessing, is it so good that the dispossession and eventual extinction of your own is a price worth paying for it?)"
Mass mongrelization = No diversity.
Just look at ANY swarthoid country, the population of such wastelands is at large all black haired, black eyed, greasy and dark.
"Silver said...
if we could but vanquish racial discrimination."
Judeo-Arabo-Meridionalist-speak for "KILL OFF ALL THE WHITES".
You are not fooling anyone Silver.
Don't worry Silver, the swarthoid mongrels can not disappear trough mongrelization for the swarthoids existence's is mongrelization!
That doesn't make any sense.
Just because a population cluster may have formed through admixture between different groups that existed in the past doesn't mean that they couldn't be mongrelized out of existence.
All population clusters are the result of mixing that occured in the past.
However they came into existence, they currently exist and thus could be made to not exist if certain types of mixing occured.
The Serbs would no longer be Serbs, for example, if they became 25% Chinese.
They'd become something else than what they are now.
Something with a large enough genetic distance from what they are now that they'd cease to exist as what they are now in any meaningful genetic sense.
Once you look at enough SNPs, all the Southern European ethnic groups fit into nice little genetic clusters, as do all the Northern European ethnic groups.
The Serbs exist as a people, even on a genetic level, the Greeks exist as a people on a genetic level, etc.
It isn't like in Mexico where some of the people differ from the others in genetics due to the upper classes being Spanish and the lower classes being mostly Aztec.
Therefore the idea that Southern Europeans couldn't be mongrelized out of existence is absurd and idiotic.
Morphologically and pigmentally there is some truth to it. As minor non-European and non-White ancestry is more noticeable among Nords than Southern Europeans, who are darker and already are significantly North African and Asiatic.
For many people their perception of whiteness is more relative than absolute. So the majority of "white" people in Latin America have significant African and Amerindian admixture, just not in the same proportion as the non-white population.
Consistently people who claim this idea of relative whiteness are of racially Mediterranean or Asiatic descent. Their value system is completely different from and contrary to Nords.
The arabs aborbed a huge amount of mongoloid blood unto themselves and yet, no traces of it can be seen today. Also negroid blood is present as well, through arabic males heavily intermingling with "female slaves" (niggresses).
"My mother also enrolled us in a local Quranic school, although we spoke practically no Arabic. In Somali, both school and Quranic school had been mixed (boys and girls); here, everything was segregated. Mahad [her brother] had to go to a madrassah for boys, and Haweya and I to one for girls. All the girls at madrassah were white; I thought of them as white, and myself, for the first time, as black. *They called Haweya and I Abid, which means, 'Slaves'. Being called a slave - the racial prejudice this term conveyed - was a big part of what I hated in Saudi Arabia".
And again, in 'ordinary' school, "real school in Saudi Arabia was just like madrassah. We studied only Arabic, math, and the Quran, and the Quran must have taken up four-fifths of our time...The teacher was an Egyptian woman, and she used to beat me. I was sure she picked on me because I was the only black child. *When she hit me with a ruler, she called me Aswad Abid - 'black slave-girl'* {my emphasis - dda}. I hated Saudi Arabia"."
One funny thing I noted, is that sandniggers consider themselves in contrast with niggers to be "white" and consider themselves in contrast with Nords to be non-white.
No wonder the swarthoids hate us so much!
Similarly negroid blood is VERY high in North Africans and Saudi Arabians and negritoid blood is VERY high in Iranians and Iraqis and all of them are medish.
The Assyrians/Armenians/Turks are extremely brachycephalic (their CI can go all the way to 95, Osmanli Turks had a CI of around 87) due to a high amount of mongoloid blood and yet they are Medish.
Southern Europeans have negroid and mongoloid blood in them and they are Medish.
What makes a White race unto a "medish" race is mongrelization, more mongrelization = more meds.
Mediterranization (or Arabization, whatever you prefer to call that) of territories is what happens when mongrelization between all the races occurs.
Kikes loves the melting pot because the melting pots creates more meds.
"The accretion of a small amount of negroid blood by the Mediterranean stock causes a frizziness of hair form; a darkening of skin color, which becomes extremely variable; a broadening of the nasal breadth; an increase in interorbital and biorbital dimensions; and often an increase in facial and nasal lengths, as well as a tendency to nasal profile convexity. Vault dimensions and body dimensions change little.
The observational material confirms the metrical data; the Jews of Russian Turkestan are true Palestinian Mediterraneans who have been brachycephalized by a process of Dinaricization; the agent of brachycephalization is Alpine, and undoubtedly the same as the Alpine element among the Tajik. The Turkish and Mongol invasions of Turkestan, which brought much mongoloid blood to the general population, have left the Jews almost unaffected. One case of epicanthus observed by Vishnevsky alone provides an exception.
The mountain agriculturalists are best represented by two groups of tribes, the Shawia and the Kabyles, the former living in the Aures Mountains south of Constantine, and the latter in the coastal Djurjura immediately east of the city of Algiers.95 Both of these Berber groups are noted for their European-like features and fair skins; blondism of a high order frequently attributed to them in the non-statistical literature. Both of them contain a minimum of Arab blood, and of the brunet Mediterranean strain or strains which may have been associated with the introduction of Hamitic speech into North Africa.
Some 130 miles west of Luxor, in the Libyan Desert, is the beginning of a long geological depression, which contains a number of oases. The easternmost of these is Kharga,76 which is part of Egypt both politically and historically. The inhabitants of this oasis are isolated from the rest of the world in a general sense, although during the centuries of intensive slave trading it was frequently visited. There is some question as to whether the inhabitants of this oasis were Libyans or Egyptians in Pharaonic times, but by the Roman period they were considered fully Egyptian. With the introduction of the camel, Kharga became an important station on the Sudanese slave route; sick slaves were left there, and other slaves taken in exchange for animals and food; as a result of this some third of the population now shows negroid traits. That this negroid blood has been acquired wholly since Roman times has been demonstrated by a study of many mummies and skeletons from a large Coptic cemetery in Kharga. None of these show negroid traits either skeletally or in hair form.
The Arabic-speaking population of the Moroccan plains is reasonably homogeneous, except for a certain negroid accretion, and looks like the Arab population elsewhere in North Africa. Although these "Arabs" must be partly Berber in blood, they, nevertheless, to a large extent, preserve their Arabian facial types. It cannot be denied that their ancestors who immigrated to Morocco at the time of the HiIlali invasions came in large numbers. The ordinary city Arabs are little different from their pastoral and agricultural brethren, but this rule does not apply to the aristocratic families. These merchant-princes are sometimes blond, and of Nordic appearance; others of them look like Mekkan aristocrats in Arabia."
"Anonymous said...
Consistently people who claim this idea of relative whiteness are of racially Mediterranean or Asiatic descent. Their value system is completely different from and contrary to Nords."
The "relative whiteness" of Crimson Tard:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/3953332/1/
More on the "relative whiteness" of Crimson Tard, by Crimson Tard:
"Crimson Tard said...
But this thread wasnt about about my Y or mtDNA--which I consider personalized information and not important to a general audience but I've shared with a few people in private."
"Crimson Tard said...
As for my Markers are completely Caucasoid and European( as shown) and none of anybody's business anyhow. And as I said before some North Africans and Middle Easterners may also may have carry my Y Chromosome or mtDNA or both, but then again they share mostly the same DNA as Europeans anyhow so none of that is important."
Crimson Tard is ashamed of admitting that his test results placed him between türkenschwein and sandniggers.
For info mudicists consider sandnigger's markers such as J1 or J2 as being "European" and even nigger markers such as E3b3 to be "European" as well since you can find it in Iberia, which is not surprising considering:
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5126/r19r19.jpg
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Judeo-Arabo-Meridionalist-speak for "KILL OFF ALL THE WHITES".
You are not fooling anyone Silver.
Drats, foiled again. There's just no putting one past you is there.
Mark Richardson made the same point during the Cronulla Beach riots. The Greeks and and Italians (third/fourth generation?) he taught were anxious to get into the fight...on the side of the Lebs. It will never change.
The surprising thing is anyone found that surprising. Of course, you naturally interpret that to mean every single Greek and Italian or the vast majority of them defiantly stood up to defend their brothers in arms. The reality is those groups have had plenty of their own problems with that troublesome minority and many of those people thought the lebs deserved what they got. So one wonders just what "things" in "things will never change" will never change.
But again, it's all beside the point. I'd be happy to send you a sworn statement agreeing that on balance we've been a net negative and that there's a (more or less) direct line between the moral arguments deployed so many years ago to the looming mother-of-all-fuck-ups. I don't see what that achieves though. Maybe it's a crucial first step -- recognizing there's a serious problem -- but of itself it says nothing at all about what the next step is or should be or even could be.
The result of merely talking about problems -- these people did this, these people are horrible, blah blah blah -- is that even if one agrees there are serious problems his solution will often be to just "try and make it work" because other alternatives seem to drastic or too hard or it's "too late." Talking about solutions, on the other hand, enables you to recruit even people who don't perceive any major problems -- simply because your "solution" represents a superior form of social organization.
Look, you seem older, so to you this may seem obvious. But get out a bit, will ya? The (big city) under-25 set mixes left, right and center. (Friendship, not necessarily "race-mixing.") To them things seem to work fine. They've never really known anything else. But it's characterized by a superficial kind of "niceness." People by and large certainly do tolerate each other. But god that's such a pissweak form of social relations. How about actually liking (not merely tolerating) the people in your society, just for who they are, without even a word being uttered? Again, obvious to you and to me, but not at all obvious to gens x and y (especially the latter).
Once you look at enough SNPs, all the Southern European ethnic groups fit into nice little genetic clusters, as do all the Northern European ethnic groups.
Dude, if I had to rely on "SNPs" to tell me there are people in this world like me and that life is best lived around them (rather than people thoroughly different to me) and thus we have something to protect I'd just hang myself right now.
The Serbs would no longer be Serbs, for example, if they became 25% Chinese.
They'd become something else than what they are now.
Something with a large enough genetic distance from what they are now that they'd cease to exist as what they are now in any meaningful genetic sense.
That's technically true. And if some people can be swayed by "the science," great.
Personally, however, I'm neither impressed nor horrified by "genetic distance." Is the guy in the ball park? If we mix will the result still look like "one of us"? If he doesn't look like one of us, what numbers of his type are talking about, so that we can predict whether we'll survive "intact"? That's what I'm concerned with.
To repeat: that's what I'm concerned with. And I think I'm on fairly safe ground claiming that the bulk of people like me would agree with me before they ever would with "the geneticists" (politically speaking).
On the other hand, the rassens et al are quite right that their kind can take far less mixture and still "look like one of us." In fact, in one sense, their kind really can't take any mixture at all. But good God just look at how so many of their own people cringe when that point is made. For them, talk about their racial makeup is inextricably linked with "supremacy," with colonialism, with "prejudice," with "hatred," with "Hitler" etc -- and then you get internet nutters, complete and utter nutters, who come out and confirm people's (too often, their own people's ) worst fears. Of course, those fears are quite legitimate. And that's why I'm adamant about finding a new way forward, that doesn't copy the past or threaten to make its mistakes.
Crimson Tard is ashamed of admitting that his test results placed him between türkenschwein and sandniggers.
Crimson Tard's your creation.
The only reason people like him exist, the only reason he is "insecure," as we say, is because of your racial views (your interpretation of racial reality).
And that of course is why so many of your people -- your own people, feller -- rush to proclaim their antiracism, that "my race is nothing to me!!", because they want to be nice, they want to spare anyone having to feel "not good enough." (They don't realize antiracism spells racial -- and cultural, somewhat indirectly -- doom for themselves.)
That's why I'm skeptical about this "antiracist"="antiwhite" line some are taking. There are definitely enough instances of antiwhite discrimination out there that plenty will be convinced by it. But whites on the left, which includes some of the best whites (you know, your objects of race-worship), will interpret it as just another chapter in your endless quest to sugarcoat what you're "all about." And they'll keep doing so for as long as nutjobs like you exist. Anyone reading this blog who agrees with the minimal position of securing white survival must understand that the ranters, the absolutists, they'll never go away, and thus he must understand the necessity of creating a distinct yet viable alternative to "nazism."
"Silver said...
The only reason people like him exist, the only reason he is "insecure," as we say, is because of your racial views (your interpretation of racial reality)."
I don't make any preferential treatments, jews have been known nation wreckers and enemies of the Aryans, same for the invading arabs. I am not going to give preferential treatments to the judeo-arabic hybrids inhabiting Southern Europe just because unlike their jewish cousins and arabic brothers they are "Europeans".
I dislike all of the nation-wrecking swarthoids equally, to me they are all equals in their subhumanity, so it's not racist.
Plus if you would take a look at the thread of Crimson Tard you would notice that it was not closed because of "people like me", but because of niggers and mulattos, he was afraid of niggers and arabs laying a claim on his proud White Aryan European person.
Our Nordic Race
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By Richard Kelly Hoskins
"The Nordic - Sect.I
The Nordic - ch.1
We are Nordics - from the North! Norway, Denmark, Northern Germany and Sweden. It was from this small section of northern Europe that our race came in successive waves which poured over distant mountains and valleys, seas and oceans. Today the remnant may be found in colonies, large and small, in the most distant parts of the globe.
We of Virginia pride ourselves on our Anglo-Saxon ancestry. Anglo - from the Angles of Denmark, Saxon - from old Saxony in Germany. Anglo-Saxons are a combination of two subtribes that includes in its Nordic race Norsemen or Vikings, Swabians, Franks, Goths, Vandals, Rus, and many others all calling themselves by different tribal names, but all belonging to the same Nordic race with the same original homeland and ancestors.
Racially there is no difference between an American or Englishman of Anglo-Saxon stock, and a Dane or German of Anglo-Saxon-Swabian stock, a Scot or Irishman of Viking-Celtic-Norman- Saxon stock, and a Swede, South African, or Australian of similarly varied Nordic stock. If it were not for our languages it would be impossible to distinguish between us merely by our looks, simply because as members of one racial family we are alike. Black hair - brown eyes, blond hair - gray eyes, but mostly sandy hair and blue eyes, and compared with other races, tall. Our skin color and facial features are typically our own and cannot be confused with other races.
Whatever the nationality of our ancestors we are all kinsmen belonging to the same Nordic race.
Our History - ch.2
The history of our race is an epic story which should thrill the hearts of our youth who will in turn strive toward further greatness.
Unfortunately, in many of our institutions of learning more emphasis is placed on what was done than on who did it. According to many present-day histories, Darwin was an Englishman, Leonardo Da Vinci an Italian, Thomas Jefferson an American, Frederick the Great a Prussian, Julius Caesar a Roman, and Alexander the Great a Greek. These historical tidbits are true but they are not the whole truth. Individually each of these examples, while interesting, is comparatively trivial when compared with the overpowering greater truth - that these heroes of the past were racial kinsmen, products of the same race. In their veins flowed the very same blood which flows in our veins today, the blood of the Nordic."
"The Birth of Nordic Nations - ch.3
At a very early date the first of our Nordic kinsmen swept out of the North down into the Greek peninsula, the Italian peninsula, and into Asia Minor. Killing or driving out the original inhabitants of these lands, they settled and founded the Persian Empire, the Grecian Empire, and the Roman Empire.
These great Empires which our Nordic peoples founded, while impressive, were important only to the extent to which they helped protect the heart of the nations where children could be born and reared, and provided an atmosphere in which the greatest treasure of our race could be brought into practical being.
This treasure, so obvious that it is often overlooked, is nothing more than the simple everyday "idea" or original thought.
With a chance to put their ideas into effect our kinsmen built ships, canals, irrigation ditches, temples, monuments, and aqueducts. They conceived religions of the most advanced sort, medicine and surgery, astronomy, navigation, and a host of other professions, ideas, methods, and things.
It has been suggested that if a group of Nordics were placed almost anywhere, in complete isolation, in a few generations they would produce a thriving civilization.
Thus it was that our Nordic cousins poured over the mountains of northern India, conquered the nation and created the great Indian culture. The same is true of Spain, France, Germany, England, America, Australia and South Africa. In fact, wherever they have gone, ideas, progress and achievements have been their handmaiden.
But there is a note of tragedy in this great story of our race, and it follows a constant pattern. Why is it that Sweden, England and Germany, nations with limited natural resources, can have a progressive, active culture after more than 2,000 years, and such mighty nations as Rome, Greece, Persia, India, Portugal and Spain produce for a few centuries - and fall . . . fall never to rise again under their own efforts?
Some historians blame this on politics, morals, lawlessness, cycle, debt, and a host of other reasons. England, Germany and Sweden have gone through each of these crises scores of times without allowing their countries and cultures to fall into disuse and decay.
To blame the fall of Rome and Greece on their morals, debt or decay, is very like blaming a plow horse for not winning the Kentucky Derby because of the lack of oats, too little exercise, or poor environment. These arguments may have merit, but the fact must be faced that a plow horse has never, can never, and will never win the Kentucky Derby, simply because he is a plow horse.
A Man O' War, if bred to a plow horse, is not likely to produce another Man o' War. The chances are further diminished as each successive generation is bred to other plow horses.
Rome and Greece ran their first races as a Man o' War, their last as plow horses. The men who followed the Roman Eagles and served in the Grecian Phalanxes from the birth to Golden Ages of these nations were a different breed - indeed, a different race - from those who ran before their foes in the declining years of these nations. They were no longer Nordics. We are blood kin to the creators of Rome and Greece but not to the breeds that fed on the remains of these nations and fell with them.
How did this happen? It all follows a constant pattern with a few minor differences."
"The Ancient World - Sect.II
Greece - ch.4
Alexander the Great destroyed Greece. With all of his conquests and glory, he did more to destroy Greece than any man or group of men of his time.
Somehow, probably from one of his teachers, Alexander became fascinated with the illusion that all that was needed to create a paradise on earth was for all non-Greeks to assimilate the Nordic Grecian culture. Putting theories into action, he built temples and centers of learning in the lands of the nations he conquered. He sent hundreds of these conquered half-caste people back to Greece to be trained as teachers and thousands more as slaves.
In a few years jackals roamed in the ruins of these far flung temples, and the thousands of mixed-blood slaves became free and married into the native stock of Greece, changing it from Nordic into something else. In spite of his good intentions Alexander betrayed and destroyed his nation and his race. What the Persian armies and others could not do, he did. It would seem that a man of his high intelligence and training would have known that there has never been a Nordic culture which has outlived its creators. Perhaps it may linger on for two or three generations, or even five or six generations, but the day always comes when weeds grow on the ruins, and half- breed peoples pass by and cast uninterested eyes upon the beautifully sculptured column which is a monument to the vanished Nordic.
Rome - ch.5
No army destroyed Nordic Rome. Nordic Rome destroyed herself before the first enemy entered her gates.
Nordic Rome conquered the world, and in doing so brought the world to Rome - as slaves. Half-breed Greeks, half-breed Egyptians, Asiatics, some Franks, and many Negroes from the slave trading nation of Egypt - all these were added to the population of Rome.
Rome became the great melting pot of the world. Efforts were made in both Rome and Greece to keep our Nordic stock pure, but these efforts were to no avail when pitted against the desire to accumulate cheap slave labor. As no Nordic-culture survives its creators, Rome fell - as had been foreseen by her own historians and philosophers.
It is from these and other examples that we arrive at a law of genetics which is as true today as it was 5,000 years ago, and as it will be 5,000 years from now.
When a race which produces original thought breeds with a race which produces little or no original thought, the resulting breed is a failure.
The resulting breeds who fell heir to Greece and Rome were comparative failures. Our Nordic race in these nations was betrayed and destroyed by their own Nordic countrymen who, for selfish purposes, became Race Traitors."
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=13183
Of course, you naturally interpret that to mean every single Greek and Italian or the vast majority of them defiantly stood up to defend their brothers in arms.
Minorities always use this argument and, of course, it is meaningless. It's not every Jew/Muslim/Jap/Italian and any level of profiling is unacceptable, for which an apology must be issued with a commensurate monetary reward for the great injustice. The point is how do you know who...what resources are available to make an assessment and what happens when it goes wrong...how many must die? However, that will never be acceptable because it will never serve the interest of the minority group.
I'd be happy to send you a sworn statement agreeing that on balance we've been a net negative...
So what! It won't return that which has been lost. What Rassen says is essentially what the Syrian Jews promote. "We don't want any Gentile characteristics." Why is their position not "inextricably linked with "supremacy," with colonialism, with "prejudice," with "hatred," with "Hitler" etc..."It not only is an issue genetically, but "taking foreign wives" also undermines your belief system.
To them things seem to work fine. Sure, as long as a sufficient level of dhimmitude is practiced. Once the surface tension of that superficial level of niceness is broken then see what happens.
"Anonymous said...
So what! It won't return that which has been lost. What Rassen says is essentially what the Syrian Jews promote. "We don't want any Gentile characteristics." Why is their position not "inextricably linked with "supremacy," with colonialism, with "prejudice," with "hatred," with "Hitler" etc..."It not only is an issue genetically, but "taking foreign wives" also undermines your belief system."
As it was mentioned in a thread at Occidental Dissent, Ashkenazic jews do not want their kids to mix with the Sephardic jewish swarthoids. Sephardic jews are more medish than the Askenazi jews and hence naturally have a lower IQ than Ashkenazi jews, not to mention that they are pretty damn swarthy which makes them look even more unwhite than their Ashkenazic brothers.
Yet I see no one complaining about "Ashkenazicim", but I see plenty of swarthoids living in Nordish countries who whine daily about "Nordicism" (which is pretty much the main discussion points of forums such as anthroscape).
Swarthoids are known race-mixers and for taking as wives females that are not theirs, especially of the Nordish variety. This is why so many of the so called "Italian-Americans" are only 40% or 30% Italian, even less in some cases. But as it has been pointed out before even if someone is 50% Nordish and 50% swarthoid, the resulting mongrel would racially be swarthoid and solely identify with the swarthoid side.
As it was mentioned in a thread at Occidental Dissent, Ashkenazic jews do not want their kids to mix with the Sephardic jewish swarthoids.
And yet they mix, continually, such that you'll hear from certain Israeli commentators -- ie people who know something about it, not loopy, tunnel-visioned internet prognosticators like your good self -- the Ashkenazi presence will eventually be reduced to an insubstantial minority.
Desmond, "so what!" you exclaim. That was my point, fruitloop. Obviously it's beyond my power (or anyone's) to turn the clock back. But we can change course (in such way that results in racial preservation). We won't change course listening to you, because you have nothing of any substance to contribute. You just sit there stewing in your hatred, ruing mistakes of the past, like the bitter old "dinosaur" that you yourself described yourself as. On the other hand, by giving people something to be for, today, here and now, while taking account of their (media-induced) biases, there is at least some reason to believe that, "indirectly*," disaster can be averted.
*In the sense of one not necessarily having to care much about race per se to support a racial separatist program.
I don't care that my line of reasoning falls on deaf ears here, on blogs like this. The hope is that some readers newly awakened to racial issues will appreciate that a genuine alternative to views like yours exists (and, hopefully, that it stands a better chance of success).
However, that will never be acceptable because it will never serve the interest of the minority group.
Says you. Because you insist that no minority group could ever, ever, ever see a future for itself outside the continuation of present trends. They're all just salivating at the prospects of dispossessing and devouring the Anglo-Saxon.
Me finding my old world countrymen culturally underwhelming? A damn lie if you've ever heard one! Well, you can think what you like, but the average person would find nothing sinister at all in my relating that story.
Actually it's Ashkenazi Jews who are more "Medish", as they are more similar to Southern Europeans than the Seraphic Jews are.
Yet I see no one complaining about "Ashkenazicim",
The Ashkenazi don't lie about history like Nordicists always do.
You don't see Ashkenazi, even the ones who don't like Seraphic Jews, go around trying to spread the moronic lie that this or that Seraphic Jewish worthy of the past was "actually Ashkenazi".
You don't see them claiming that Moses Maimonides was an Ashkenazi.
Also the Ashkenazi don't insult the Seraphic Jews by saying they're mongrels, or that they "aren't really Jews".
It's obvious why Ashkenazi haven't provoked the kind of opposition from non-Ashkenazi Jews that Nordicists have from non-Nordic Whites.
If you can't see it, the more fool you.
Plus if you would take a look at the thread of Crimson Tard you would notice that it was not closed because of "people like me",
I wasn't talking about the thread being closed or similar minutiae.
Broadly, people go into a Crimson Tard state of mind and attempt to defend their human worth by recourse to statistics and genetic studies as a result of racialist claims about human worth deriving from the same, such as yours (or n/a's or the WWII era nationalist socialists etc). I can't help but consider it supremely unlikely that Crimson Tard would have ever taken such an abiding interest in that subject matter on his own initiative; it's pure reaction.
Of course, I'm not blameless here, either. The prospects of negrification are what haunt me, and that has more than once caused me to lash out against "niggers." But that's usually followed by remorse, since my intention isn't at all to make a universal truth claim regarding their worth -- ie, I don't recommend nor would I want them to see themselves in the same light as I see them.
My views are grounded in particularism, not universalism. As I've mentioned regarding your people, there are plenty of them I (and most of my friends) regard as a pretty worthless bunch. The idea that they are my "superiors" is utterly laughable to me. Not in a million years would I trade places with them. No Crimson Tardism going on here. Nevertheless, I wouldn't expect them to see themselves the way I see them. Obviously it's in their interests to see themselves as you see them ("gods among men" etc). My position is that if we all take this view regarding each other we'll be much better placed to admit that living around one another is underwhelming stuff, and that if we value our own kind more than we do other kinds we'll seek to create conditions in which we can live around our own and preserve those conditions for future generations.
(Hey, a swarthoidess for your files: Francesca Lodo. Babe to me. Piece of shit to you. Cool. Win-win.)
"Anonymous said...
The Ashkenazi don't lie about history like Nordicists always do."
No, they do much better then "lie":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trVouB84094
http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Ringworm-Children-of-Israel-An-Ashkenazi-Genocide-Against-Sephardi-Jews
"Anonymous said...
Actually it's Ashkenazi Jews who are more "Medish"
Who are you trying to kid, you smelly little mongrelized camel-fucking sandnigger cunt?
"Ashkenaz" means "Germany" in hebrew, "Sephard" means "Spain" in hebrew. Ashkenazis are the "Nordish jews" (if you can call them that) who mixed with the Nordish population, while Sephards are the Medish jews who mixed with the mednigger and sandnigger populations.
Compare.
Ashkenazic jew:
Ehud Olmert and Vladimir Putin
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Sephardic jew:
Emmanuelle Chriqui
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Compare her with Penelope Cruz and her sister who are "gentiles"
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This is also why the Mediterranean Fever is prevalent amongst Sephards because they are medniggers, but not so much amongst ashkenazi jews who intermixed with Whites.
Of course, that they be Sephards or Ashkenazis none of them identify with non-jews, even if Sephards as I demonstrated are racially like the rest of the swarthoids. So you can play the role of the Americanized swarthoid orientalist idoletor kike-wannabees like Sir Infamous by pretending that jews are killing off Nordish Whites while sparring the southern swarthoids, but the truth is they are not.
For example just by 2009 jews brought in something like 45,000 sub-saharan clandestino in Milan alone:
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At least look at it in the brighter side, Italy won't be so greasy anymore!
I see that faux-Nordic wanna-be Rasse is polluting this thread up with his obsession.
Hey Rasse - why don't you post a pic of that handsome mug of yours just to show the rest of us racial proletarians what an 'aristcratic', real 'Nord' looks like?
I dislike all of the nation-wrecking swarthoids equally, to me they are all equals in their subhumanity, so it's not racist. - Rassenhygieniker
Do you drink before you go and make a post as eloquent as this one?
Plus if you would take a look at the thread of Crimson Tard you would notice that it was not closed because of "people like me",
Weren't you also banned over at Forum Biodiversity because of your personality traits?
Who are you trying to kid, you smelly little mongrelized camel-fucking sandnigger cunt? - Rassenhygieniker
And what are you smoking (or, more likely snorting) when you make comments such as that priceless one?
My God, your gratuitous, sanctimonious hate is going to eat through your body, then your soul like sulfuric acid.
Better stay away from the hot food for a while, a loooong while.
Normally I might be critical of Rass, but considering how the majority of people are anti-Nordish (which is what most people implicitly refer to as White, and who are typically the targets of anti-White hatred) to some degree, even among White nationalists, and it's socially accepted, tolerated, condoned and thought to be humorous, then I say keep up the good work, Rass!
The Ashkenazi don't lie about history
Have you been living under a rock? The Holohoax is the biggest lie ever committed against a nation and the world. There are no bigger liars than Jews, the great masters of the lie.
All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true in itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes. From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a religious community, where as in reality they are a race? And what a race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and exactly true. Schopenhauer called the Jew "The Great Master of Lies". Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth to prevail. - Adolf Hitler
I see that faux-Nordic wanna-be Rasse is polluting this thread up with his obsession.
Swarthoids constantly churn out contradictory, inconsistent, and incoherent arguments against Northern European preservation. One day they say British people are worthless scum, and the next day they say British people are meds. They use anything they can come up with, no matter how ludicrous, irrelevant, or inconsistent it is with what they just said, to try to weaken the will of Northern Europeans to survive as a unique entity.
One thing they're obsessed with is claiming advocates of Nordish preservation are "not very Nordic themselves." They're like anti-racists who might say, for example, "White nationalists are a bunch of unemployed personal trainer bums," as if that would somehow refute white nationalism.
Whether or not this is true is irrelevant. So what if a Northern European who advocates Northern European preservation has a less distinctly Nordish phenotype? Does that mean Northern Europeans don't deserve to survive as a distinct people? Of course not, but that is what swarthoids imply.
Northern Europeans have a right to racial life no matter how wonderful or awful advocates of Northern European preservation are.
A testament to their ability to lie and distort is that they turn Hitler's statements about their lying around on him and quote him out of context to make it appear he is claiming to be advocating lying himself.
"Anonymous said...
I say keep up the good work, Rass!"
Thank you greatly for the kind words of encouragement, my good Sire.
I shall continue in my campaign to destroy the swarthy subhumanoid lowbornes and reveal to the White world the true face of the mongrel bastards of Cain.
The sons of whores are the accursed bastards of Cain who had intercourse with the animal from the field of Nod, which gave birth to the "Afro-Asiatics" or "Asianics" as they are sometimes called.
The Aryan Overmen are the pure sons of Seth (the new Abel) untouched by the beasts of the field nor by the mongrels of Cain.
The Southern Europeans are the sons of Seth who intermingled with the sons of Cain giving birth to the swarthoids.
The taint of Cain is a pestilence in the face of the world that can only do one thing but, spread:
"By nature a mongrel can only do one thing and that's to mongrelize, mongrelization is the enemy of any pure race." - David Tate (1997)
Mongrelization = Kikeniggers/Medniggers/Sandniggers etc.
Pure Race = Aryans
Mongrelization is spread by the mongrels, the mongrealization is the enemy of the pure Northwestern European Aryans.
This is the struggle of the two branches, the two seeds, one evil and one good, one tainted and one pure.
The Medish race against the Nordish race represents the struggle between Cain and Abel.
"Anonymous said...
Northern Europeans have a right to racial life no matter how wonderful or awful advocates of Northern European preservation are."
I used to write posts in a respectfull manner, but being respectfull when those snakes would thow any kind of low-tricks to get "back at Northern Europeans" and use any slander no matter how vulgar, inconstitant or disgusting is something I will not stand idly and act as if nothing was.
From personal experiences I have learned that being respectfull toward fellow Northern Europeans is good but anything else deserve no respect from their better and are betst put back in their place both in real life and on the internet.
Gypsies, Sub-Saharan negroids, Maghrebis and of course Euro-swarthoids always like to talk about "respect and tolerance", that is fine and dandy but the fact is that they respect no one and tolerate nothing. They just talk about it, because they want this to be applied to them by their betters, but they won't be the ones applying what they preach to themselves, very jewish behaviour.
Anyone that had encounters in real life with swarthoids and/or spent time "argumenting" on the internet with the non-Nordish "Europeans" knows that I am right.
"Anonymous said...
Weren't you also banned over at Forum Biodiversity because of your personality traits?"
No, I was banned for comparing the administrator basterma/falafel-making "Assyrian" (fancy word for Christian Iraqis) immigrant with some arab immigrant.
Saying that "assyrians" are just christian arabs with a "fancy" name equals a ban there.
Plus I made the comparison post on purpose because I wanted to get banned, as after a few posts I found out that all the posters there were either Euro-swarthoids non-Euro swarthoids and beaners.
Rassie is a perfect example of my contention that a lot of folks who post on these types of boards and blogs are mentally handicapped.
They're like anti-racists who might say, for example, "White nationalists are a bunch of unemployed personal trainer bums,"
LMAO!!
We got 'em there, right?!
Oh, just curious, what line of employment are you in my Nordish brother?
One day they say British people are worthless scum, and the next day they say British people are meds.
Well, maybe that is why there 'worthless scum' - since they got a little too much 'Med' in them to qualify as 'really White".
The Medish race against the Nordish race represents the struggle between Cain and Abel.
As only someone with the insight of Asperger's Syndrome like yourself could attest to!
Good detective work, there, Rassa!
"Archimedes said...
Well, maybe that is why there 'worthless scum' - since they got a little too much 'Med' in them to qualify as 'really White"."
So by what you say, you are implying that British people are worthless scums because of mediterranean admixture and that too much mediterranean admixture makes them not too white, is that it?
So if this the case, by what you are saying british people carry a little bit of medish admixture which is what is making them be such worthless scums and the same medish admixture makes them too med to be White. Then, if a little bit of medish admixture makes them too medish to be white and turns them unto worthless scums, that means elevating the amount of medish admixture will gradually worsen Nordish people features and behaviour.
Which means that the med themselves are pieces of excrements and subhuman niggers.
This is what your post is implying and when you implyied this you unwillingly acknowledged the true inferior and non-white nature of the swarthoids, good job. You are like a moron who would place a banana peel as a trap only to inadvertently slip on it yourself.
Though what you are implying is inconsistent and as it has been pointed out before to have already been disproven.
Besides for example on stormfront and other silly forums like that, it is not the British People who wastes bandwidth by posting hundreds of pictures to make other believe that they are White, this is typically a Euro-Swarthoid and non-Euro swarthoid method.
"Anonymous said...
Well, maybe that is why there 'worthless scum' - since they got a little too much 'Med' in them to qualify as 'really White"."
So by what you say, you are implying that British people are worthless scums because of mediterranean admixture and that too much mediterranean admixture makes them not too white, is that it?
So if this the case, by what you are saying british people carry a little bit of medish admixture which is what is making them be such worthless scums and the same medish admixture makes them too med to be White. Then, if a little bit of medish admixture makes them too medish to be white and turns them unto worthless scums, that means elevating the amount of medish admixture will gradually worsen Nordish people features and behaviour.
Which means that the med themselves are pieces of excrements and subhuman niggers.
This is what your post is implying and when you implyied this you unwillingly acknowledged the true inferior and non-white nature of the swarthoids, good job. You are like a moron who would place a banana peel as a trap only to inadvertently slip on it yourself.
Though what you are implying is inconsistent and as it has been pointed out before to have already been disproven.
Besides for example on stormfront and other silly forums like that, it is not the British People who wastes bandwidth by posting hundreds of pictures to make other believe that they are White, this is typically a Euro-Swarthoid and non-Euro swarthoid method.
Two examples here:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t555198/
And here:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t548651/
LMAO!!
We got 'em there, right?!
As usual, you completely ignored the main point of the post which refuted your fallacious claims.
As far as the personal trainer part, the fact is that you said you are an unemployed "personal trainer". Saying "LMAO!!" doesn't change that fact.
"Just curious my Nordish brother"
The bullshit never ends with Kulaks. His next charade will be pretending to be Nordish.
So by what you say, you are implying that British people are worthless scums because of mediterranean admixture and that too much mediterranean admixture makes them not too white, is that it?
No genius, it is YOU who is not only implying this, but screaming it in post after post after post on how supposedly 'worthless' the Mediterranean peoples are, and all I am doing is pointing out the hypocrisy of someone like your self who is so consumed with hate that you cannot even believe when actual Nordicist writers point out the fact that the White British nation have appreciable amounts of the genes from these peoples. And the Mediterranean race is absolutely a White sub-race.
And frankly, God bless them for it - since it is a long, historical component of their historical founding stock culture, and it what makes the British who they are, for better or worse.
Someone had to point this out to you, the flunkie of the 'Arthur Kemp school of anthropology' (for the autistically-challenged).
...You are like a moron who would place a banana peel as a trap only to inadvertently slip on it yourself.
Everytime you open your big mouth and say something so obviously stupid -- and sooooo easily refutable -- is a 'banana peel moment'.
Plus I made the comparison post on purpose because I wanted to get banned, as after a few posts I found out that all the posters there were either Euro-swarthoids non-Euro swarthoids and beaners.
That's right Rassa, save and protect us
from the 'evil plague' of der Ewige Swarthoids!
As far as the personal trainer part, the fact is that you said you are an unemployed "personal trainer". Saying "LMAO!!" doesn't change that fact.
Who cares what someone else says about their current employment, or lack thereof.
What, are you trying to mock people over this, especially in this awful economy.
Oh, just curious, what line of employment are you in...
Indeed, what do you do for a living?
The Aryan Overmen are the pure sons of Seth (the new Abel) untouched by the beasts of the field nor by the mongrels of Cain.
...
The Medish race against the Nordish race represents the struggle between Cain and Abel.
Well that settles it!
Rassie is a perfect example of my contention that a lot of folks who post on these types of boards and blogs are mentally handicapped.
Well, obviously based on his hallucinating rants, you cannot hold "Supermen" like him to the same human standards as the rest of us lowly racial proles (sigh...)
After all, when your an A Number #1 "Overman" like Rassie -- why try harder?
Rassenhygieniker said...
"Anonymous said...
I say keep up the good work, Rass!"
Thank you greatly for the kind words of encouragement, my good Sire.
I shall continue in my campaign to destroy the swarthy subhumanoid lowbornes and reveal to the White world the true face of the mongrel bastards of Cain.
The sons of whores are the accursed bastards of Cain who had intercourse with the animal from the field of Nod, which gave birth to the "Afro-Asiatics" or "Asianics" as they are sometimes called.
The Aryan Overmen are the pure sons of Seth (the new Abel) untouched by the beasts of the field nor by the mongrels of Cain.
==
Mmmmm hmmmmm.....
You know what, I think this is a better explanation of what you are really all about, "good Sire":
"Around 40 percent of people with schizophrenia will have the paranoid type. This is one of five sub-types of schizophrenia. Paranoid schizophrenia tends to appear later in life, usually around the age of 25 to 30. The main features are a preoccupation with one or more delusions or frequent auditory hallucinations, but nothing prominent in terms of disorganized speech, flat or inappropriate emotions.
The delusional content (the beliefs) of the person with paranoid schizophrenia is marked by grandiosity, or persecution, or both. Onset can be fairly rapid but may be difficult for others to recognize it for what it is. Anger, irritation or argumentative behavior may be the most prominent features, as is extreme jealousy.
http://www.healthcentral.com/schizophrenia/c/674/36339/schizophrenia
Examples of the most common paranoid symptoms are delusions of:
- persecution
- reference
- exalted birth
- special mission
- bodily change
or jealousy;
http://www.schizophrenia.com/szparanoid.htm
My goodness, it all fits this guy on every count.
"good Sire" (what a dork)
I shall continue in my campaign to destroy the swarthy subhumanoid lowbornes and reveal to the White world the true face of the mongrel bastards of Cain.
Go get 'em, Tiger!
http://tinyurl.com/38bznaf
"I used to write posts in a respectfull manner, but being respectfull when those snakes would thow any kind of low-tricks to get "back at Northern Europeans" and use any slander no matter how vulgar, inconstitant or disgusting is something I will not stand idly and act as if nothing was.
"From personal experiences I have learned that being respectfull toward fellow Northern Europeans is good but anything else deserve no respect from their better and are betst put back in their place both in real life and on the internet.
"Gypsies, Sub-Saharan negroids, Maghrebis and of course Euro-swarthoids always like to talk about "respect and tolerance", that is fine and dandy but the fact is that they respect no one and tolerate nothing. They just talk about it, because they want this to be applied to them by their betters, but they won't be the ones applying what they preach to themselves, very jewish behaviour.
"Anyone that had encounters in real life with swarthoids and/or spent time "argumenting" on the internet with the non-Nordish "Europeans" knows that I am right."
==
"respectfull" (repeated three seperate times)
"betst"
and, best of all "argumenting"...
*Quite the wordsmith, isn't he?
What the hell is the "Mediterranean" race? Are the Italians, Spaniards and Greeks finally professing blood community with the Moroccans, Algerians, Turks and Lebanese Arabs?
It's about time you conceded your greater moral, intellectual and genealogical affinity with the race and religion of the Arab world.
The only good thing I have to say about Rienzi is that he is somewhat less insane than Rassenhygieniker. If you look at his latest blog hippoexposed, you will see why I said "somewhat."
Rienzi's buddy CG is not the sharpest tool in the shed, even by Anthroscape standards (an example is him claiming without any evidence that Sicilians are genetically closer to Spanish and French than to Greeks.)
> Personally, however, I'm neither impressed nor horrified by "genetic distance." Is the guy in the ball park? If we mix will the result still look like "one of us"?
Haha, you dream of breeding with a 'guy'? Fag!
> Anyone reading this blog who agrees with the minimal position of securing white survival must understand that the ranters, the absolutists, they'll never go away, and thus he must understand the necessity of creating a distinct yet viable alternative to "nazism."
Yes, well put.
"RS said...
Haha, you dream of breeding with a 'guy'? Fag!"
Homosexuals, swarthoids and homosexual swarthoids are hated by God and branded with the mark of Cain.
All of them will burn in hell:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9995/r251r251.jpg
Our Hyperborean Lord will accept none of those aberrations unto his everlasting Aryan Kingdom:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6103/r01r01.jpg
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6103/r01r01.jpg
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9130/r02r02.jpg
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4918/r41r41.jpg
"Archimedes said...
Rienzi's buddy CG is not the sharpest tool in the shed, even by Anthroscape standards (an example is him claiming without any evidence that Sicilians are genetically closer to Spanish and French than to Greeks.)"
Iberians, Greeks and Italians are all half-niggers, it does not really matter which is the most niggerized of the bunch.
But Crimson Tard isn't too good yes, his sub-racial "classifications", consist of spamming "Alpine", "Alpine", "Alpine", endlessly. And when he gets called out on his bullshit/ignorance, he replies by spouting some more bullshit like "You can be Alpine whitout being brachycephalic!".
Similarly I remember reading that he made the claim that: "Redheads came out from black haired people mixing en masse."
Yes of course, this is why Southern Europe is renown for it's redheads...
Haha, you dream of breeding with a 'guy'? Fag!
Of course Rassy has a thing for men.
That is why he has so many pics of male racial 'exemplar' types ;)
"Anonymous said...
Of course Rassy has a thing for men."
That was Silver:
"Silver said...
Personally, however, I'm neither impressed nor horrified by "genetic distance." Is the guy in the ball park? If we mix will the result still look like "one of us"?"
Can someone block Rassie's IP or at least call his nurse/orderly to keep him off the Internet until he's taken his meds?
And yes, he is right. I am a "half-nigger." That's why everybody mistakes me for Barack Obama. LMAO.
Can someone block Rassie's IP
Typical swarthoid attitude (see Jews, Catholic Church, etc.) of wanting to shut down speech.
I am a "half-nigger."
Finally a swarthoid tells the truth.
I was making a joke. Do you know what a joke is?
Rassie's "speech" is a mixture of copypasta and psychotic ranting It is amusing in small doses, but a little goes a long way.
"Archimedes said...
Can someone block Rassie's IP"
Aw, this is rich. A guido comes uninvited and start off by making demands, typical swarthoid behaviour.
"Archimedes said...
And yes, he is right. I am a "half-nigger." That's why everybody mistakes me for Barack Obama. LMAO."
"vanillagorilla said...
I was making a joke. Do you know what a joke is?"
Looks like someone made a mistake and exposed himself as posting under several different usernames (Archimedes/vanillagorilla)
Even your username implies that you are half-White (vanilla) and half-nigger (gorilla).
"vanillagorilla said...
Rassie's "speech" is a mixture of copypasta and psychotic ranting It is amusing in small doses, but a little goes a long way."
No one is forcing you to come here and read what is written, go back to your crass nigger forums like biodievershitty, anthrocivitas and anthroscape at least there you will feel equal when you are surrounded by your fellow non-whites. There you will be at ease and will be able to talk about "muhdik" with your niggers, about "siestas" with your Mexicans, about "interracial transsexual orgies" with your Brazilians (and Reginald Thompson) and about "gang rapes" with your sandniggers.
"Archimedes said...
Can someone block Rassie's IP"
Aw, this is rich. A guido comes uninvited and start off by making demands, typical swarthoid behaviour.
"Archimedes said...
And yes, he is right. I am a "half-nigger." That's why everybody mistakes me for Barack Obama. LMAO."
"vanillagorilla said...
I was making a joke. Do you know what a joke is?"
Looks like someone made a mistake and exposed himself as posting under several different usernames (Archimedes/vanillagorilla)
Even your username implies that you are half-White (vanilla) and half-nigger (gorilla).
"vanillagorilla said...
Rassie's "speech" is a mixture of copypasta and psychotic ranting It is amusing in small doses, but a little goes a long way."
No one is forcing you to come here and read what is written, go back to your crass nigger forums like biodievershitty, anthrocivitas and anthroscape at least there you will feel equal when you are surrounded by your fellow non-whites. There you will be at ease and will be able to talk about "muhdik" with your niggers, about "siestas" with your Mexicans, about "interracial transsexual orgies" with your Brazilians (and Reginald Thompson) and about "gang rapes" with your sandniggers.
"Anonymous said...
Finally a swarthoid tells the truth."
Asking a swarthoid to tell the truth is like asking a jew to not lie.
Rassie's "speech" is a mixture of copypasta and psychotic ranting It is amusing in small doses, but a little goes a long way.
You just described the majority of the internet. It's a catharsis for people's inane ramblings and rantings. Hey, it's cheaper than a shrink.
Archimedes the camel fucker, carpet flying, hashish smoking, pastirma eater, lamp rubbing sandnigger exposed himself as being vanillagorilla/vanillagorilla2:
http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/search.php?searchid=493531
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/search.php?do=finduser&u=419
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/profile/414840/
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/profile/635927/
"vanillagorilla/vanillagorilla2/Archimedes said...
CG is an American, just like Sir Infamous and myself. He has Sicilian ancestry but I don't know that he is 100% Sicilian."
95% of the medicists medniggers are in fact not completly swarthoids, but as it has been pointed out on this blog, even if someone is 50% Nordish and 50% Medish, the resulting mongrel turns out to be phenotypically swarthoid and (completely) identifies as such (similar case with jews, arabs and negroes).
Sir Infamous, Racial Irreality, Crimson Tard, Guy White, vanillagorilla/vanillagorilla2/Archimedes (you) and the other plethora of Swarthoid-Americoons medicist philo-semite medniggers are all mixed with Nordish blood, but of course almost none of them acknowledge it and the ones that do only admit it in a very timid fashion to try to sweep this "little detail" under the rug, others like Racial Irreality just ignore brush it off completly.
Of course if it weren't for this "little detail" their IQ would be similar to the average IQ of Lebanese and North Africans (similar to the average IQ of South Italians) and such people could not care less about discussing such issues, of course is something they care to do because discussing race is something that Nordish people are interested in, unlike the 85 IQ medniggers/sandniggers.
Northern Italians who are less swarthy have an average IQ between 94 and 102 and South Italians and are more swarthy have an average IQ between 86 and 89, Nordish blood enhance the mednigger IQ and cranial capacity.
This is why Lombardy and Bavaria have the same average IQ and there is a whole 17 points of difference between Sicily and Lombardy/Bavaria.
I take it back. Please don't ban Rassie, this place would be a lot less entertaining without him. His last couple posts about me were hilarious.
n/a doesn't take orders from mud people.
Rassie's "speech" is a mixture of copypasta and psychotic ranting It is amusing in small doses, but a little goes a long way.
You're not kidding.
Rassie-the-idiot virtually makes up his own 'language' as he goes along.
So much for 'the Queen's English' for the 'British Islander' :-)
*Does anyone still realistically think Rassie is even White/European, let alone Scottish?
...Nordish blood enhance the mednigger IQ and cranial capacity.
Obviously didn't do you or your non-English "British Islander" co-ethnics too much good in this regard, since the Scottish and Irish (and the western English) have some of the lowest IQ averages among northern Europeans.
"Archimedes the camel fucker, carpet flying, hashish smoking, pastirma eater, lamp rubbing sandnigger"
Thanks for the compliments, Mr. "British Islander" dude.
ROTFL.
"Our Hyperborean Lord will accept none of those aberrations unto his everlasting Aryan Kingdom:"
You tell 'em, Rass!
"Homosexuals, swarthoids and homosexual swarthoids are hated by God and branded with the mark of Cain."
I guess Rassie is the "Scottish" equivalent of Fred Phelps too.
"Homosexuals, swarthoids and homosexual swarthoids are hated by God and branded with the mark of Cain."
I guess Rassie is the "Scottish" equivalent of Fred Phelps too.
LOL.
Typical hallucinating, rambling babble from the usual suspects...
Drawing Jesus with blue eyes doesn't make him any less of a kike. lol @ worshipping a kike religion and kike savior
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I highly doubt Rasse is a Christian.
Seems more like some kind of mentally ill, fat-ass goth occultist
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