The present research found that the Muslim country mean IQ of 81 is half a standard deviation below the mean IQ of non-Muslim nations and is not related to strength of Muslim culture as defined by the percentage of Muslims in the country. The mean IQ of 84 in Arab countries is not associated with per capita income and is incompatible with the intellectual achievements of the golden age of the Muslim Empire. Possible explanations for this decline include hybridization with sub-Saharan Africans, dysgenic decrease in the more educated Muslims employing birth control as suggested by Meisenberg, the Muslim religion not fostering critical thinking, and the intellectual contributions being both exaggerated and made by non-Muslims.
[Donald I Templer. The Comparison of Mean IQ in Muslim and Non-Muslim Countries. Mankind Quarterly. Washington: Spring 2010. Vol. 50, Iss. 3; pg. 188, 22 pgs]
IQ in Muslim and Non-Muslim Countries
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"The mean IQ of 84 in Arab countries is not associated with per capita income and is incompatible with the intellectual achievements of the golden age of the Muslim Empire."
No it isn't. The intellectual achievements of the "golden age" of the Muslim Empire aren't much -- especially when compared to the West.
An IQ of 84 is about what you would expect from Arab countries if you understand that winters are good for your genes. In fact, it's not just Middle Easterners and North Africans who have IQs in the mid 80s -- Indians do as well:
http://www.vdare.com/rushton/070926_indians.htm
Even in the Balkans the average IQ is only about 93.
"In my recent review of the research on race differences in intelligence that has been carried out over the last eighty years I have set the British IQ at 100 and shown that other Europeans have the same average IQ, except in the Balkans where it drops to around 93."
http://www.vdare.com/lynn/090520_race_differences.htm
Anonymous,
I don't disagree. Note that one of the explanations offered is "the intellectual contributions being both exaggerated and made by non-Muslims."
n/a,
Yes, I definitely saw that.
Cousin marriage?
—Harold
Yep, consanguinity: http://www.consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence
Moreover, just about all the worthwhile contributions during the so-called Golden Age of Islam were made by Persians. Then again, Persians do not seem to be that smart, either.
Auster got Hart to admit how the achievements of pre-modern muslims are incompatible with their currently reported IQ's.
"Auster got Hart to admit how the achievements of pre-modern muslims are incompatible with their currently reported IQ's."
The IQ level of Arabs hasn't declined since the Muslim Empire. Populations that evolve in colder environments have higher IQs. That's why Europeans have an average IQ of 100 and Africans have an average IQ of 70. And that's also why Arabs have an average IQ perfectly intermediate to those two populations (IQ 84): Arabs evolved in an environment that was intermediate to the evironments that Europeans and Africans evolved in.
http://www.vdare.com/rushton/060322_iq.htm
"The mean IQ of 84 in Arab countries is ...incompatible with the intellectual achievements of the golden age of the Muslim Empire."
That's perhaps not too surprising. The intellectual achievements of the golden age of the Muslim empire were a product of a small, cosmopolitan educated elite. You could say the same for India, which also had significant intellectual achievements in history, and still does now and then, although the average IQ for that country is in the mid-80s.
"Then again, Persians do not seem to be that smart, either."
Bullshit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iranians
Lynn's only IQ data on Iranians is like what, some decades old study on some elementary school kids?
I remember a while back a post at GNXP looked at international performance on some sort of math olympics competition and Iran really outperformed its economic ranking.
This site would suggest otherwise regarding the lineup concerning global IQ by country. We have to take the sample population into account.
http://www.iqleague.com/group/smartest-country-in-the-world
If it were true that winters are good for your genes, there were plenty of other intellectually tasking trials that would have selected for intelligence in many non-cold climates. Such as surviving other humans, ie. wars, which I think the Middle East has been exposed to at a monumental magnitude. In addition, what exactly is the mechanism by which cold weather selects for intelligence. maybe for being fat but intelligence? How so? And if this is the case then why is it that a disproportionate amount of mathematical, linguistic, artistic, and architectural foundations, fundamentals and a great deal of elaboration occurs in countries in the Middle east, India, and North Africa? There was a lot of elaboration by western Europeans after some point but that was more a matter of playing out what logically followed from the already present and much more difficult to develop bodies of knowledge. The countries that had been the birthplace of this knowledge had fallen into turmoil during this time and would have likely done the same work if the case had been otherwise. India, China, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Israel
(Modern day names of some regions)
Meanwhile in all of Western Europe we have dirt mounds and stone henge...
I do not trust the IQ testing implicated. The site mentioned contradicts the results most people seem to be familiar with. I believe the tests were biased or the sample sizes were skewed in a way that produced these results. I'm not saying it was intentional, and maybe not completely wrong, but also clearly not consistent with other results so maybe they are not so solid.
http://www.iqleague.com/group/smartest-country-in-the-world
This iq test gave me most accurate score http://iqtestpro.com/ ...which was confirmed later by Mensa.
I think measuring smartest country in nonsense!
It was not made by persian
So, N/A will criticize Rushton when he says nogs have big dicks; ok, fair.
But will uncritically believe Rushton when he says MENAs have amerinegro-tier IQs, I wonder how they had those inventions and empires indeed! I mean sure, maybe it pales in comparison to the west but still, its perfectly acceptable to assume a slightly lower iq or dysgenic/enviromental factors in the modern day but extrapolating the 84 number to ancient times?
A retard:
"In addition, what exactly is the mechanism by which cold weather selects for intelligence. maybe for being fat but intelligence"
Yes retard, that explains why mexicans and south asians have so much adipose tissue, there is no way cold climate could select for intelligence, if you can't see why it might select for intelligence then it says a lot about your intelligence. I don't believe it is the sole or even main motivator of developing intelligence but it could be a factor, see the larger cranial capacities, particularly in the frontal lobe, in northern caucasoid groups even if brain size isn't a perfect proxy for intellect.
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"If it were true that winters are good for your genes, there were plenty of other intellectually tasking trials that would have selected for intelligence in many non-cold climates Such as surviving other humans, ie. wars, which I think the Middle East has been exposed to at a monumental magnitude"
Because Europe is known for having a peaceful history from the paleolithic to modern times; not. You will bring this up when you want to portray Europeans as savages but not in this case for some reason, the west had two WORLD WARS before inventing the internet and landing on the moon and yet you use jewish neocon intervention and colonialism (which built massive infrastructure) as an excuse for middle eastern and brown underdevelopment, failure and lack of accomplishment.
"How so? And if this is the case then why is it that a disproportionate amount of mathematical, linguistic, artistic, and architectural foundations, fundamentals and a great deal of elaboration occurs in countries in the Middle east, India, and North Africa? There was a lot of elaboration by western Europeans after some point but that was more a matter of playing out what logically followed from the already present and much more difficult to develop bodies of knowledge. The countries that had been the birthplace of this knowledge had fallen into turmoil during this time and would have likely done the same work if the case had been otherwise. India, China, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Israel
(Modern day names of some regions)
Meanwhile in all of Western Europe we have dirt mounds and stone henge... "
This is a typical leftist argument and one utilized by certain nonwhites and southern europeans. It's dumb because it doesn't take into account the environmental factors that may have benefited these regions of the world relative to most of Europe, such as not being isolated, climate, etc... The fertile crescent is extremely productive land. We are lead to believe that northern Europe had congo-tier societies (dubious: see this thread https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/331595411 as well as the corded ware derived antecedents to indo-iranian cultures) while other people where more developed because they were superior or something (how does that apply in the modern day?)
Should we not talk about the massive over-representation of European, and western European innovation? I guess the left doesn't like to talk about how much Europeans have done relative to their population, especially considering the places you mentioned would have held the majority of the world population at the time, northern* European accomplishment is simply a target of passive mockery and ignored.
https://ibb.co/QcfqjHL
When your group has no modern accomplishments, the lineage gets glorified and you look to the past (greeks, middle easterners, indians, chinese, etc) this type of behavior is very common among these groups. It's no surprise this behavior is never called out is because people need their copes.
It's also funny how anti-racists chimp out when north Europeans take pride in their accomplishments, they say, (you are claiming group achievements because you have none yourself) but when the aforementioned groups do this they will defend their right to do it to the death.
Either way, in terms of accomplishment and brain morphology the inferiority of middle easterners and south asians seems to be proven, not to mention the underachievement of asians, so, instead of looking for excuses for modern European achievement, you should look for the favorable circumstances that certain ancient people had, it's especially funny how some people try to attribute the industrial revolution to luck! That isn't something that just happens!
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