"Oversized" Penile Length In The Black People; Myth Or Reality
Posted by n/a at 1/30/2010 10:01:00 AMGuy White "logic": reporting on an incident of bestiality which he asserts "does carry several stereotypes", one of the first three things that comes to guywhite's mind is: "This Black guy must be enormous down under to be able to do it with a horse." Reality:
“Oversized” Penile Length In The Black People; Myth Or RealityRelated: Rushton and genital size: one more time
JC Orakwe, GU Ebuh
Abstract
Objective: Amongst the Caucasians and some non-Black races, there is the popular belief that the black people generally have longer penile sizes. Even the Blacks themselves tend to believe so. This study was carried out to test the veracity of this ascription of “oversized” penile length to people of the Black (Negro) race.
Design: A prospective and comparative study
Setting: The Nnamdi Azikiwe University Teaching Hospital, Nnewi, Nigeria.
Subjects and Method: Full-stretch flaccid penile lengths, and flaccid penile lengths, were measured in 115 adult men of the Black race in Nigeria. The results were compared with reported similar main studies on people of other races, which were accessible to the authors. These studies were done in Italy, Greece, Korea, Britain, and the United States of America.
Result: The mean full-stretch penile length of the Nigerian Blacks was 13.37cm and the mean flaccid length was 9.36cm. Similar studies reported full-stretch penile lengths of 12.50cm in Italians, 12.18cm in Greeks, 9.6cm in Koreans, 13cm in British Caucasians [note: the number reported for the British sample is actually the median, and is identical to the median for this Nigerian sample], and 12.45cm in the American Caucasians [note: this sample actually includes Asians, blacks, and whites]. The penile length for Nigerian Blacks was longer than those of the other races, but the differences were only statistically different in comparison with the Koreans.
Conclusion: There is the possibility of racial differences in penile sizes, but there is no convincing scientific background to support the ascription of bigger penile dimensions to people of the Black race
Keywords: Penile Length, Black Race, Penile Size
Tropical Journal of Medical Research Vol. 11 (1) 2007: pp. 16-18
[. . .] The observed longer flaccid penile length particularly may be partly responsible for the apparent impression that the Blacks have bigger penile dimensions. It is know that the flaccid penis is deformable extensible and elastic, and influenced by variations in ambient temperatures, and also by fear and anxiety. This influence may be due to the effect of these factors on the Dartos muscles, which contract in low temperature and in state of fear and anxiety, and relax in high temperatures. Native black environments have high ambient temperatures. Photographs taken in these environments may depict an apparently longer penile length in the flaccid state and this may erroneously be extrapolated to the erect state. We believe that most impressions of the "oversized" penile lengths in the blacks are derived from such pornographic photographs. This however may not be all the reason. Edward in the result of his survey of definitive penile size published on-line, observed that the average flaccid penile length of the black Americans was shorter compared to that of the American Caucasians, but that the average erect length of the American Caucasians was surprisingly longer. Since the comparison was done in the same environment, other factors may be contributory to the observed longer flaccid penile length in the blacks.
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Does penis size grow proportionally to body size? The average height of Nigerian men is about 1.64m (shorter than the women of most western countries) whereas with a western diet would it not probably be closer to 1.74?
-Harold
(1) There's a small positive correlation between height and penis size within populations, but I know of no evidence secular increases in height have been accompanied by secular increases in penis size. I've seen it claimed that penis size is in fact decreasing in the West (due, it is said, to endocrine disruptors in the environment), though I've not seen any strong evidence on that point either and I imagine differences in the prevalence of obesity would confound comparisons.
(2) A study of 320 (presumably not malnourished) Nigerian medical students finds an even lower mean flaccid penis length.
Could you provide a link to the study if possible?
http://ajol.info/index.php/tjmr/article/view/30465/0
Thanks.
I noticed that Guy White added Racial Reality to his blogroll. One brilliant intellectual linking to another.
None of the men who are reputed to be the Biggest In Porn are white.
"I’d argue that the last piece of evidence is contingent on the first: we see the outliers in porn strictly because the myth exists. The presence of those outliers doesn’t support the evidence for the myth. It has to be thrown out of court.
“So, where do men get the idea they’re too small? “From pornography,” explains Richard Pacheco, a porn star of the 1970s, now retired. “The men in porn are a self-selecting group. Only the guys with the biggest dicks audition. And producers pick the guys who are largest.” “
This affects black men most for two reasons. First, if you’re a black man, because you’ve likely bought into the Myth just like everyone else, you’re probably only going to even think about a career in porn if you’re seriously packing. None of this 8 inch bullshit. So black male pornstars exhibit an even greater self-selection bias than white male pornstars who also self-select for size. There’s also the decision of the gatekeepers to porn stardom: producers and directors. If they believe the myth, this adds even more upward pressure on black men’s penis size in the industry. There is an additional “Myth factor” that forces black men to have to stack up even more than they would without such a myth. In an industry that favors extremity over normalcy, a black man has to have a bigger penis that most white male pornstars to be considered marketable."
"And even if that argument doesn’t hold, there is the fact that the world-record holder for this category happens to be a white guy from New York."
Jonah Falcon
"In early 2006, he appeared in a documentary by UK Channel 4 called "The World's Biggest Penis."[4] His large size also led him to several appearances on the Howard Stern radio program.[2]
Rolling Stone reports Falcon's penis as 9.5 inches (24 cm) in length when flaccid and 13.5 inches (34 cm) in length when erect.[1]"
"Anyway, if you’ve read my blog more than once or twice, you know I direct for Blacks On Blondes. And I’ve been on most sets as either a director or second cameraman since late ‘02. And in January of ‘03 we started rolling on Spring Thomas, and I shot and booked every one of those scenes. So, I’m gonna let you in on a little secret.
Black dudes, as a whole, are not any larger than white dudes.
I’m going to go as far as calling this fact. But before we go there, let’s take a look at the graph I ripped off from someone else’s website. I know it doesn’t take race into consideration, but it’s pretty accurate. It’s accurate cause it’s based on Alfred Kinsey’s studies. He found, after measuring something like 10,000 dicks from 1938 to 1963, that they’re usually 5 – 6 inches long.
Some are smaller, some are bigger.
(Know what else he found out? 92% of all those dudes reported they beat it, while only 62% of the ladies admitted to rubbing one out. Of all those ladies, over 80% rubbed it out using both labia and clitoral stimulation.)
Back to pee-pees: According to Gebhard and Johnson (1979), the average erect penis of males in the US is 5-7 inches and the average circumference is 4-6 inches. I only wish Gebhard and Johnson would have gone to Africa and researched dick size, cause I think they woulda found out the same thing I already know.
While booking the early Spring Thomas interracial sex movies, I actually placed an ad in Adult Friend Finder. I wasn’t shooting in Los Angeles then, but I still had to find black dudes…which I did.
Guess what?
5 to 7 inches.
We found one hung dude – Slim – and that’s about it.
And honestly, check out the Los Angeles talent pool. Once you get beyond the freaks of nature (Mandingo, Jack Napier, Shane Diesel, and Boz The Animal)…well, we’re back to 5 to 7 inches.
In fact, I can’t book a lot of the black guys running around Los Angeles calling themselves male talent, especially for Blacks On Blondes, cause The Producer is very picky about size, and, well, look back up at the chart and see what happens to the blue lines once you get past 7 inches.
I know, I know…I sound like a small-dicked, frustrated white boy.
But I’m not. Really. Just ask Kinsey."
Yeah, the difference is not huge, but you are never going to convince me that whites are the same size as blacks on average, the extremes,'freaks of nature', you talk about are all black.
"None of this 8 inch bullshit.",
Bullshit yourself, 8inches is extraordinary, anyone who sees a true 8'' will swear it's a righteous 9''. And on film you can add another couple of inches for the impression the petite girls and the camera tricks give. 10'' is the absolute maximum and at that size they don't fight gravity.
I dont believe Falcon has a functional 13'', John Holmes was sometimes claimed to be that but he wasn't.
Cool story, bro.
Why don't you just come out and admit you're a deranged nordicist with a very complex case of penis envy?
It's funny how so many pseudoscientific white supremacists are intensely fixated on the penises of black men.
The author of this blog is not obsessed with negro penises. How many of his blogs are on it, only a few.
If anything, negro males are obsessed with themselves and the alleged size of their penises. And they get angry when reality intrudes on their false beliefs.
If blacks don't have their supposed monster penises, what do they have? Nothing, so they attach themselves to the myth.
well I'm black and lets see....I have my brain, my career my education, my family, a great girlfriend, good health and physical condition so i still have a lot going for me!...... and for the record....Im not porn star huge....but a solid 8!
Cool story, bro.
Shaniqua say black and white men neck and neck.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK, WHITE, AND OTHER DICK 18+
The director is listing the "freaks" as blacks because he was writing about black actors in features he shoots that star ... blacks. How retarded is "Anonymous" from February 8, 2010 12:06 PM?
2. The authors of a paper in Science a few years ago discovered that some black men appear to have larger penises than white men -- that is, the penis appears larger when in repose, because the gene that carries sickle-cell anemia tends to make the penis semi-erect when it's flaccid. I was told that the authors of the study had hesitated for some time before publishing their findings, and then did so anxiously and with misgivings.
A NATURAL HISTORY OF THE SENSES
The biggest dick I ever seen in real lfe was attached to a 17 year old "black" dude (13 inches of un-cut cock) and the smallest winnie I ever seen was barely poking out from the balls of a 21 year old "white" stud
(2 inches of wasted skin) I'll just call it as I see it...
But April we can easily verify that there is no one that size working in porn.
Chris Charming is often mentioned as the biggest white man in porn, never as the the biggest overall.
Mandingo is generally acknowledged to be the biggest in porn. The balance of opinion is that he is 10''. Mandingo's endowment is visibly bigger than most, if not nearly all, of those, black or white, who claim similar or greater measurements. 10 inches is the absolute max.
April Freiboden?
Women tend to vastly overestimate penis size of their mates unless actually measured. It is correct that the upper scale of penis size in porn is in the 10 inch area.
Many male porn stars are short and slim as well, making their penises look larger than they really are.
"It is correct that the upper scale of penis size in porn is in the 10 inch area."
No, not 'area'. That suggests some are a bit over 10''
It is a huge industry, most of the 'freaks of nature' named above are around 9'', even Mandingo is probably slightly under 10''.
Like I said 10'' is the absolute max.
John Holmes, the largest ever in porn, Nordish.
Jonah Falcon, largest measured at 13.5", Nordish. He claims his foreskin can cover a door knob.
The largest in Hollywood are nearly all Nordish. Liam Neeson is reported to be the largest.
Blacks could be larger in porn simply because more of them are comfortable being in porn and have no talents. Despite people encouraging Johan Falcon to be in porn he has no interest and wants to be taken seriously in his profession.
Unfortunately for Asian males the negative stereotype is true, that's why they're virtually nonexistent in Western porn. They're also the largest consumers of porn worldwide.
Jonah Falcon's appearance and background suggest he's a mischling.
What background is that, being from NY?
There is a post using his name with a linked Myspace account saying he's not Jewish.
Interviewers have said he's uncircumcised.
He claims his father was John Holmes, probably a joke.
He's at least part Italian through his mother.
His background, location, name.
He doesn't look Nordish. His facial structure, especially his nose and mouth, is Jewish/Medish/West Asiatic. Mischling or mixed types can have somewhat light coloration coupled with this structure.
You've given no information about his background, I have.
Location has nothing to do with it, that's fallacious.
Nordish includes peripheral Nords that have some non-Nordish, European admixture.
He is not central Nordish.
It says he's from Brooklyn and went to the Bronx High School of Science. Not many Nords are from Brooklyn and go to the Bronx HS of Science, apart from the Irish maybe and their numbers there have probably been declining, and he doesn't seem Irish.
His name doesn't sound Nordish, and he doesn't look Nordish.
This article describes him as "a bi-sexual 39-year-old Jewish actor/screenwriter/video game blogger from New York who is now unemployed and living with his mother."
http://animalnewyork.com/2010/01/man-with-the-worlds-largest-penis-looking-for-work-in-all-the-wrong-places/
Holmes wore colored contact lenses, his biological father was called Carl Estes. He was around 9 1/2'' and his 'erection' flopped down unless supported (as does Falcon's). Photos of Falcon show he may approach the 10'' mark. I think the reason he hasn't appeared in porn is that he has erection problems and would be unable to perform as advertised. An Mexican looking 80's porn guy "Dick Rambone" was promoted as the new Holmes but was criticized for being flaccid and soon quit.
"Liam Neeson is reported to be the largest". Clearly that can be based on nothing more than he is a tall man with very large hands.
his not jewish his spanish (spain) read in interview
There is no comparison as to penis by race. That is sick and just a backward supremest attitude. Only on an individual basis can you compare. All this research for nothing. What a waste of precious time and money. Who cares who have the biggest penis. Applying big genitals to the black race or white race gets you nothing but phantom issues of the mind. Can anyone answer the question why all the research to prove a myth wrong. I have enough sense to know that a black person can do the same research to prove the myth true. However, it ends up the same way as the above. Get a life. Don't get stuck with making your life work male genitals. I hope you don't go to restrooms just to look at black genitals.
Ray
Anonymous said... October 2, 2011 9:44 AM
This article describes him as "a bi-sexual 39-year-old Jewish actor/screenwriter/video game blogger from New York who is now unemployed and living with his mother."
Are you daft? I already said he corrected that article by posting below it that he's not Jewish.
All this research for nothing. What a waste of precious time and money. Who cares who have the biggest penis.
I agree, but the value in studying such a thing is not in the interest of it itself, it's disputing falsehoods and defamation against White males. You see this constantly in the media and it trickles down into the mass consciousness.
Another interesting self-reported statistic is that black males have an overinflated and undue sense of their size. Typical of their egocentric and often psychopathic personality. So for the same size black males feel they are large, while White males may feel they are average or small.
"Liam Neeson is reported to be the largest". Clearly that can be based on nothing more than he is a tall man with very large hands.
That doesn't even make sense.
If anything the same penis size would in relation look smaller on a taller, larger-bodied male.
It's based on women's personal accounts. Such as Janice Dickinson.
"It was like an Evian bottle fell out of his pants," she said. "The earth shook. OMG, you don't understand - I swallowed my tongue I was so shocked. This was way before he was famous, too."
Erik at Feminine Beauty is linking to this page and drawing attention to the comment about only a few black porn performers having a penis that is exceptionally large - over 8 inches.
It should go without saying that the exceptionally large is exceptionally rare. The fact remains that all of the performers over 8 inches are black.
I'll revise the estimate for Mandingo, he is not over 9 and a half inches, and is artificially enhanced. He has obviously had suspensatory ligament surgery. There may be no one with a gravity-fighting erect penis over 9 inches.
Re hand size there is a connection between fingers and the penis. Look it up. Entertaining stories notwithstanding, Neeson does not get his out for all to see so you would be very gullible to believe size comparisons in anecdotes were literally true.
The fact remains that all of the performers over 8 inches are black.
[citation needed]
There can be no cite as no proper measurements are done, but the advantage of porn as a guide to reality-land is we can check and see if it is credible. If you think you know of a white bigger than 8'' in porn then let's have the name. In my opinion there is not a currently active porn performer who is white and even 8 inches. Those freak of nature black performers mentioned by name above have at least an inch and a half on any white.
In other words, you're full of shit. And you stare at dicks in porn.
It's hardly necessary to stare to see a visible difference between the biggest white performers and the biggest of all. It was the author of the blog who broached this subject, not I. I just don't think it is advantageous to have a post say something about racial differences that lacks credibility for the substantial part of the population who have watched porn. In the general population the disparity is not as great as at the extreme of size discussed here, but the difference does exist.
This thread and the subject in general is not about black porn stars or who is the biggest at whatever disgusting porn sites you subscribe to. No one gives a shit.
It's about false stereotypes and exaggerations about blacks.
Statistically Whites and blacks are not significantly different. Asians however are significantly smaller, Koreans being the smallest.
In my opinion there is not a currently active porn performer who is white and even 8 inches. Those freak of nature black performers mentioned by name above have at least an inch and a half on any white.
Your opinion is meaningless, it's baseless speculation. You're nothing more than a cuckolded Negrophile.
My comments were not based on a restricted sampling or about 'blacks in porn'. They were on the subject of the post, based on the overwhelming balance of informed opinion, and can be verified by looking at INTERNET discussion of the subject. Anyone can access and see for themselves that the extreme of size in the porn industry (irrespective of race) is discussed on the net and there is not a single White proposed as contender for being the biggest penis in porn. I think it is obvious if you look at actual porn with these named performers that they're over an inch bigger than any white.
If you are the sort of person who judges White achievements by penis size, I can see why you prefer to think there is no difference/do not want to look at porn that might disconcert you.
Again, name a white man in porn who is ever mentioned in the top 10 of size irrespective of race, or who you think could be the in the top 10 for size irrespective of race. I do not enjoy saying these things but it is only pointing out the elephant in the room.
To critics who are calling it speculation and demanding verification I'll say this: it's something that anyone with less delicate sensibilities than their own can easily see is true. This post is doing a disservice to its readers("but that the average erect length of the American Caucasians was surprisingly longer")if it encourages then to think that. they can say these things in a public form without making themselves (and white racial pride) ridiculous. It is like the absurd claims about (non-existent) black maths geniuses who have been wrongly denied a Fields medal.
Women will often tell their friends, and genuinely believe, that their man has a extraordinarily large penis - if they love him.
My comments were not based on a restricted sampling or about 'blacks in porn'. They were on the subject of the post, based on the overwhelming balance of informed opinion, and can be verified by looking at INTERNET discussion of the subject.
You're a liar and a moron.
Get it through your thick skull, statistically there is no significant difference in penis size between blacks and Whites. Regarding Asians it's over an inch, which could be said to be significant.
Opinions on some internet discussion forum by Negrophilic idiots like you are meaningless in establishing statistical data to make a generalized conclusion.
If you want to talk about individuals, Jonah Falcon, a White male, has the largest penis on record.
I'm a white man who endulges in occasional viewing of pornography. My penile length is almost exactly 7 inches. I frequently see the white male actors in films who clearly have penises 2+ inches longer than my own. In other words, 8+ inch white actors are very common in porn.
I don't know what this other person here is basing his observations on. He's either really bad at making relative comparisons or he is peddling some kind of agenda to falsely claim black dominance in this particular area.
This sort of psychosis to be very common among HBD kooks; they frequently go around peddling factually false nonsense about black masculinity. The reality is that these people are very timid and effete and are simply projecting their inferiority upon everyone else.
I don't know what this other person here is basing his observations on. He's either really bad at making relative comparisons or he is peddling some kind of agenda to falsely claim black dominance in this particular area.
This sort of psychosis to be very common among HBD kooks; they frequently go around peddling factually false nonsense about black masculinity. The reality is that these people are very timid and effete and are simply projecting their inferiority upon everyone else.
Thank you for some sanity around here.
These HBD-tards have some kind of mental disorder, it's a sort of inverted racialism, racial self-flagellation, where they have to affirm negative stereotypes about Whites and positive stereotypes about blacks and Asians in order to establish racial differences.
The Negrophile in question here if not malicious and stupid, is naive and pathetic in that he isn't even aware that he's promoting interracial, anti-White propaganda. It doesn't cross his mind that just maybe the websites he frequents and the videos he watches purposely select those individuals to give that impression, and that it's not representative. When you look at statistical data, that is indeed the case, however it is true about Asian males, especially Koreans which explains why they're virtually absent in Western pornography.
"none of the men reputed to be the biggest in porn are white"
uh, no....the man with one of the biggest in the history of porn was john holmes who is white and he was doing porn back in the 70s and dick rambone was another one who was from that time as well, the man with the current biggest in porn is a white man named matt hughes who goes by the porn nickname danny dong, and the other biggest is a german man who goes by the nickname white pony, and their are tons of others who are just as big and bigger than the biggest black pornstars but arent pushed and advertised in order to get you to see them(hence why they arent reputed, because people dont know about them) and dont have their scenes shot with the focus being to make you see that they have a big dick. the majority of black men in porn are slightly above average, just like whites and the ones who you think look monsterous are a result of cheap camera tricks and fish eye camera lenses, go watch a vid of any that you think are monsterous that is shot with a regular camera from a regular distance, you'll see for yourself thats not how they really look....cant say im surprised by your ignorance or denial of this though
"if you know of a white in porn who is over 8" lets have name"
smh...this is going to be toooo easy
danny dong, white pony, manuel ferrara, criss strokes, rocco siffredi, bruce venture, criss charming, scott nails, ian scott, kieran lee, peter north, voodoo, steve holmes, mark ashley, ben english, whitezilla, james deen,ron jeremy, etc.
i could keep going, but id be here all damn day if i did