Margaret Sanger, daughter of Irish Catholics; married first to a Jew; then to a South African; influenced by and conduit of happenings in Europe; also, a "Yankee" and proof that "progressivism" is best conceived of as an offshoot of New England Puritanism.
More of an activist than her father, Bill had recently joined a Socialist Party local in the Bronx, where he lived with his father, Edward Ely Sanger; his mother, Henrietta Wolfberg; and his younger sister, Cecilia. Most heretically appealing for the rebellious daughter of a Catholic from a town without a synagogue, William Sanger was a Jew--by heritage, not conviction.
The Sangers had emigrated from Berlin in 1878 when William was four years old. His father represented a growing stream of Jewish immigrants from Germany as well as, in greater numbers, Eastern Europe, pushed across the Atlantic by increasing pressure from the Prussian state. When the census taker came to their apartment in the Nineteenth Ward two years after their arrival, in 1880, Bill Sanger's father gave his name as Edward, a proper Anglo-Saxon name, and his occupation as a wool manufacturer. Twenty years later, living in a diverse neighborhood of mostly German Jews who sold real estate and insurance, he was listed as Elzia, an unusual contraction of the Hebrew name Eleazar.
At first, Maggie Higgins and Bill Sanger shared their alien status: she the migratory, rebellious daughter of a poor Catholic family, he a Jewish immigrant still living at home at twenty-six years of age. The, for the rest of their lives, they both obscured the facts of his family heritage, which became easier to do when his father died in 1903. Finding Bill's background exotic at first, she later erased it, lest it compromise the fragile birth control movement and her credibility to lead it. To be married to a Jew in the first decades of the twentieth century was to be associated with the radical political views of socialists and to invite the pervasive smear of anti-Semitism. [. . .]
In her Autobiography, Margaret Sanger transformed her father-in-law, Elzia, a wool manufacturer in the garment industry in New York, into Edward, a wealthy English sheep rancher who had moved to Australia. During one of his trips to Europe, through he was sixteen years her senior, Edward had fallen in love with the mayor Konigsberg's fourteen-year-old daughter, Henrietta. Smitten, he had waited for her to grow up and then returned to marry her.
[Jean H. Baker. Margaret Sanger: A Life of Passion]
Yes, isn't it odd how a woman of Irish immigrant stock, married to a Jewish immigrant, somehow exemplifies Yankee Puritans. Strange how that has happened.
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It's Occidental Dissent. What do you expect?
ReplyDeleteMy hunch is that most of the OD crowd (Hunter Wallace, Matt Parrott, Thrasymachus, Friedrich Braun) are all part-Jews/mischlings. That would seem to be the best explanation for their consistently malicious behavior.
Didn't Parrott have a falling out with Hunter? Have they kissed and made up?
ReplyDeleteMany of them, especially Parrott, suffer from Asperger's syndrome and severe psychological problems. Even if not Jewish in ancestry they are similar to Jews in behavior as Jews disproportionately suffer from psychological disorders.
They're all probably on multiple psychiatric medications just to function in society.
I don't think that Hunter is being malicious. He just made a factual error.
ReplyDeleteI think the anonymous @ 3:39 is correct.
Hunter definitely has a psychological disorder. Every couple of years he has a mental breakdown and changes the theme/direction of his website and his writing. His last breakdown was with the Breivik incident last year. Bipolar disorder? Hunter always denies having a mental breakdown, of course.
HBD and WN seems to attract its fair share of autistics and other mental cases. A read through the comments of a typical HBD blog is a treasure trove of autism.
MajorityRights also seems to have an extremely dense concentration of autistics and nutcases - the guy 'Leon Haller' who wants to deport all non-whites but keep his half-Korean girlfriend, the pedophile wog 'Uh' who loves Stalin and Trotsky, GuessedWorker who yammers on about politically/socially irrelevant philosophical topics, Soren Renner, Constantin von Hoffmeister the philosemitic and narcisstic moron, and the list goes on.
This would actually be an interesting research topic, if one had the time to explore it. Did political/social movements in history have a similar share of nutters, or is this a phenomena that is unique to modernity? Is this something unique to WN/HBD movements? Etc.
I don't really think any of this has anything to do with Hunter's factual error though. People make mistakes regardless of mental state.
Did political/social movements in history have a similar share of nutters, or is this a phenomena that is unique to modernity? Is this something unique to WN/HBD movements?
ReplyDeleteIt could be due to the fact that it's mainly an internet phenomenon.
Political/social movements in the past before the internet existed developed in the real, physical world with people socializing and meeting in real life.
Did political/social movements in history have a similar share of nutters, or is this a phenomena that is unique to modernity? Is this something unique to WN/HBD movements?
ReplyDeleteProbably a little bit of both, but certainly the internet gives nutters and weirdos more of a voice.
The problem I see is that it's not just nutters having a voice it's that there's such a dearth of real leaders.
A classic John Derbyshire column:
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It is a fact, a sad but a true one, that grass-roots political activism, the heart and soul of any democracy, attracts a lot of lunatics. I used to be a constituency activist for the Tory party in Kings Cross, London. Of the twenty or so people who turned up regularly to meetings, four or five were noticeably deranged (or, as an elderly fellow-Tory was wont to murmur in my ear when one of these cranks sought the meeting's attention, "not quite sixteen annas to the rupee"). One or two were barking mad. My favorite was a gent with an Albert Einstein hairstyle and a permanent ferocious glare who, at every darn meeting, would try to advance his pet project for a law against class discrimination. (This was at a time, in the early 1980s, when laws against racial discrimination were being passed, to much controversy.)
If it's like that in the Tory party, one of the Anglosphere's oldest and solidest, at the heart of an ancient metropolis, I can imagine how thing are further away from the political center. A friend of mine, a brilliant, charming, and highly civilized man I shall call X, runs a fringe political group here in the U.S. He invited me to one of the group's annual conferences. Not sure what to expect, I asked a mutual friend, name of Y, who had attended a previous year's conference. "Well," said Y, "there are a dozen or so people like X, thoughtful and well-informed — people you'd be happy to hang out with. And around them buzzes this big cloud of latrine flies." I decided not to take up X's invitation.
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A friend of mine, a brilliant, charming, and highly civilized man I shall call X, runs a fringe political group here in the U.S. He invited me to one of the group's annual conferences.
ReplyDeleteIs he referring to American Renaissance?
Jared Taylor specifically, that description doesn't fit anyone else.
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ReplyDeleteMajorityRights also seems to have an extremely dense concentration of autistics and nutcases - the guy 'Leon Haller' who wants to deport all non-whites but keep his half-Korean girlfriend, the pedophile wog 'Uh' who loves Stalin and Trotsky, GuessedWorker who yammers on about politically/socially irrelevant philosophical topics, Soren Renner, Constantin von Hoffmeister the philosemitic and narcisstic moron, and the list goes on.
And of course, all these people are philo-Semites or Jew-excusers, just like the OD bunch.
It's funny, we always hear how "the Jew issue brings out all the crazies" yet the reverse seems to be the case.
The late Jonathan Bowden's most popular You Tube video has a grand total of 11,823 views. The relevant worldwide talent pool is very shallow.
ReplyDeleteThe Jewish issue does bring out the crazies, from both sides.
ReplyDeleteThe crazies tend to be the ones who focus on it primarily and incessantly, whether philo or anti.
Pretty sad state of affairs when the miscegenist, Jew-loving, Sinophilic beta male Derbie is the "normal guy" in the room.
ReplyDeleteA classic John Derbyshire column:
http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/USPolitics/ronpaul.html
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It is a fact, a sad but a true one, that grass-roots political activism, the heart and soul of any democracy, attracts a lot of lunatics.
"Pretty sad state of affairs when the miscegenist, Jew-loving, Sinophilic beta male Derbie is the "normal guy" in the room."
ReplyDeleteCool it buddy.
Are we buddies now?
ReplyDeleteYou don't tell me what to do, buddy.
Cool what exactly?
Everything I said is true.
Pretty sad state of affairs when the miscegenist, Jew-loving, Sinophilic beta male Derbie is the "normal guy" in the room.
ReplyDeleteYeah man, careful. Derbyshire is a hero to thousands of HBD geeks who are obsessed with race yet have absolutely no concern for the survival and well-being of their own.
You don't tell me what to do, buddy.
ReplyDeleteIt's not your blog. n/a has the right to set the tone as he sees fit and exclude whomever or whatever he wants to exclude.
Everything I said is true.
While I begrudgingly agree (except for one detail, which I'll save for below), I consider the transformation towards full racial awareness as a process of progression. At the bottom you're a full-blown white-hating lunatic leftist like Tim Wise. It's a long series of steps to get all the way to the top. Derbyshire is far from the bottom but still somewhat distant from the top.
I think people like Derbyshire are useful. He's not a socially repellant mouth-breather like some people in WN are. He can help elevate a lot of people up the steps of racial awareness. He writes mostly good articles IMO.
Sinophilic beta male
(emphasis added)
Not exactly sure what you mean here. The term is thrown out alot but has nebulous meaning.
PUA types like Roissy use the term to mean someone who doesn't score chicks all the time and prefers marriage over one night stands.
Other people use the term more generically to mean someone who is not a "full" man. They're characterized as "lesser" men for various reasons.
IMO - we can legitimately criticize Derbyshire for marrying a Chinese. However, I'd like to point out that few in WN are actually married. Alot of WN people seem to have toxic personalities and are often women-haters which keeps them out of the game of reproduction - I don't take these people seriously as intellectuals or leaders when they dish out criticism but can't meet their stated goals of white reproduction.
For WN who criticize, are you all making any reasonable effort to procure mates and produce offspring?
It's not your blog. n/a has the right to set the tone as he sees fit and exclude whomever or whatever he wants to exclude.
ReplyDeleteIt's not your conversation, so keep your brown nose out of it and fuck off with the straw men.
I consider the transformation towards full racial awareness as a process of progression. At the bottom you're a full-blown white-hating lunatic leftist like Tim Wise. It's a long series of steps to get all the way to the top. Derbyshire is far from the bottom but still somewhat distant from the top.
Yet Tim Wise, for all his lunacy, had enough clarity to marry and procreate with a white woman.
Derb, along with other miscegenators, is at the bottom.
"Everything I said is true."
I begrudgingly agree ... we can legitimately criticize Derbyshire for marrying a Chinese
That's the only intelligent thing you said.
Yet Tim Wise, for all his lunacy, had enough clarity to marry and procreate with a white woman.
ReplyDeleteTim Wise isn't white.
It's not your conversation, so keep your brown nose out of it and fuck off with the straw men.
ReplyDeleteThis is a public blog. If you want to have a private conversation then perhaps you shouldn't do it in a public forum.
Your comments are game for anybody to come and respond to.
Yet Tim Wise, for all his lunacy, had enough clarity to marry and procreate with a white woman.
Tim Wise didn't marry with the explicit purpose of preserving his race. The "clarity" he had was likely due to other motivations.
Derb, along with other miscegenators, is at the bottom.
So in your mind, Tim Wise is a more useful commenter on racial topics than the Derb? Oookay.
So in your mind, Tim Wise is a more useful commenter on racial topics than the Derb? Oookay.
ReplyDeleteThe Derb wants the White race mixed out of existence, the same as Tim Wise does. The only difference is that Derbyshire is more effective at advocating that position than Wise is, and Derbyshire also kisses Jewish ass along the way.
The Derb wants the White race mixed out of existence, the same as Tim Wise does.
ReplyDeleteYou don't know that Derbyshire wants that. In fact, it's not even clear that Tim Wise does. I have no trouble believing Tim Wise wants it, it's just that I'm not sure he's ever said it or that he even would say it, so there's always that element of "who knows?" at the back of your mind.
Imo, Derbyshire doesn't want it, but he refuses (for now) to advocate policies that would avoid that fate. There are a few possible reasons for that that need having nothing to do with wanting the erasure of whites. (a) It's possible that he, like most people, is simply ignorant of the 'mechanics' of the process of erasure. These people simply disbelieve that whites are being wiped out. It's a feat in itself to get them to merely acknowledge what is occurring and what, if unchecked, is the inevitable denouement. (b) It's possible he believes the 'end game' is too far in the future to be worth worrying about. In other words he may acknowledge that, sure, whites will eventually be erased, but if that takes place a thousand years from now, well, who cares? (c) Somewhat related to (b), he may believe that the damage has already been done, the toothpaste is already out of the tube, and it's either impossible or too difficult/harmful/costly to do anything about it. It's 'too late.' In Derbyshire's case, there's obviously the element of it being too harmful/costly to his progeny.
And you can always add (d), that Derb believes he's bringing people along slowly, that anything more pointed or direct risks losing supporters. There's good reason for believing this. You see bad racialism driving out good racialism in race/hbd/nationalist blogs and forums all the time. You get these impatient, limitlessly furious types (like the guy here accusing Derbyshire of wanting white erasure) -- the Angry, Angry Aryans, I call 'em -- who are tired of 'all the talk' and just want to declare whites rule, everyone else massively, massively sucks so can we please get the race war under way. Problem is, there's not much of a market for that sort of opinion. People who don't feel as strongly about race are put off by this and, I believe, often end up less racialistic in their thinking than they were before.
I don't think there are enough mischlings for the amount of activity ascribed to them here. The hypothesis that lots of people are stupid and will go along with conventional wisdom even when believing themselves to be heterodox seems more likely.
ReplyDeleteCoolitbuddy is not me.
ReplyDeleteUnmoderated anonymous commenting draws out nutcases and blowhards as well, I've noticed.
ReplyDeleteI'll show you moderation.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous has been banned!