tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227780861638767023.post3183037397502711791..comments2024-01-27T00:27:45.851+00:00Comments on race/history/evolution notes: Dutch / English / Old American ancestryn/ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02378473351485233448noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227780861638767023.post-75468908820221455772012-11-29T03:29:22.763+00:002012-11-29T03:29:22.763+00:00n/a, I really agree with the last paragraph of you...n/a, I really agree with the last paragraph of your post.<br />Albion's Seed in particular is a real source of all this recent 'Scots-Irish' and 'Celtic South' trend. And the larger point about how people choose to self-identify, even in contradiction to their actual ancestry, is something I find very irritating and counterproductive as it splits us up based on all these arbitrary self-chosen identities.<br />-VAVanishing Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07723746944036650219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227780861638767023.post-84336398660236970832012-10-12T23:14:18.554+01:002012-10-12T23:14:18.554+01:00'unless you're 100% English'
As far a...'unless you're 100% English'<br /><br />As far as I know, Fraser is a highland Scottish name. In any event, he's not American and doesn't speak for me. I was disappointed with his book, which I think gets some important points wrong and relies too heavily on "New Right"-filtered continental anti-Americanism and anti-Anglo-Saxonism.<br /><br />Note: Mild anti-Americanism/anti-Anglo-Saxonism is fine for French people in France. Ingroup biases are normal. Using some other group's biases as a starting point for understanding one's own group, however, seems to me less than sensible -- particularly if the end goal is to rally or advance the interests of one's own group.<br /><br />Also: the trend I'm speaking of predates anything Andrew Fraser ever published on "WASPs". My point is that irrespective of how people choose to identify, there does exist an ethnic core in America, consisting of the descendants of primarily English colonists and assimilated Northwestern Europeans. When a member of this group decides to set himself apart with some boutique minority identity and attack the majority, he is ultimately undermining his own interests, regardless of whether it makes him feel better about himself in the short run. As for actual minorities living in Anglo-Saxon countries, it's to be expected that they will behave this way. Members of the ethnic core should be aware of this dynamic before allowing themselves to be too influenced by these types (Moldbug, wintermute, etc.).n/ahttp://racehist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227780861638767023.post-75801141306134991842012-10-09T11:12:06.099+01:002012-10-09T11:12:06.099+01:00I don't see a problem with someone identifying...<i>I don't see a problem with someone identifying with his patrilineal national origin for census purposes while remaining aware of his overall ancestry. What I find irritating is the eagerness of some with American ancestry to identify as "Scotch-Irish" after reading a review of Albion's Seed, or "Celtic" in the name of Celtic Southronism, or "German" because they had a German great-grandfather, and then declare themselves at war with or at least safely distinct from evil/culpable "WASPs" / "Anglo-Saxons" (which appellations in reality describe the core of the breeding population from which the newly self-identified Borderer/Celt/German sprung).</i><br /><br />Well, it doesn't help when you have people like Andrew Fraser over at TOO insisting that unless you're 100% English, you're part of the problem. Naturally that kind of thing is going to encourage people (even who have a lot of colonial American blood) to view "WASPs" with hostility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227780861638767023.post-49867045291431652382012-10-08T20:59:32.810+01:002012-10-08T20:59:32.810+01:00Hail,
I think we're in general agreement.Hail,<br /><br />I think we're in general agreement. n/ahttp://racehist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-227780861638767023.post-44142706823538145802012-10-07T19:38:56.728+01:002012-10-07T19:38:56.728+01:00Being of Colonial American stock should count as a...Being of Colonial American stock should count as an ethnicity.<br /><br />One could say "I am half Colonial-Yankee, a quarter German, and a quarter French". Trying to split hairs about a Colonial-American's ancestors' origins seems not only silly, but counterproductive towards trying to actually understand how a person sees himself.<br /><br />As such, when I wrote the snapshot of <a href="http://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/mitt-romneys-ancestry/" rel="nofollow">Mitt Romney's ancestral stock</a>, it went like this:<br /><br /><b>Mitt Romney: Ethnic Ancestry Summary</b><br />40.6% England — Mostly Northwest England, partly W.Midlands.<br />18.8% Scotland<br />26.6% Colonial-Yankee<br />12.5% North-German<br />1.5-3% French, Acadian and possible HuguenotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com