Although mutation provides the fuel for phenotypic evolution, it also imposes a substantial burden on fitness through the production of predominantly deleterious alleles, a matter of concern from a human-health perspective. [. . .] a consideration of the long-term consequences of current human behavior for deleterious-mutation accumulation leads to the conclusion that a substantial reduction in human fitness can be expected over the next few centuries in industrialized societies unless novel means of genetic intervention are developed.I know Hamilton expressed similar concerns, but to the extent accelerated accumulation of deleterious mutations under modern conditions is a real/serious problem this author's suggestion of "multigenerational cryogenic storage and utilization of gametes and/or embryos" seems preferable to some of Hamilton's goofier "solutions" (such as marrying HIV- Nairobi prostitutes to protect one's offspring from impending AIDS epidemic). I'm not too worried about imminent mutational meltdown (some modern "problems" like antibiotics may be in the process of solving themselves), but from a strictly conservationist or even historical standpoint, large-scale, long-term storage of human genetic and/or gametic material makes sense. If we can see the need for plants and animals, why not for ourselves?
Genetic deterioration of modern populations?
A post by Notus Wind brought this paper to my attention:
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I am glad you found the paper interesting enough to blog about. You're certainly in a much better position to comment on this sort of material than I am.
Keep up the good work as always.
In the context of Darwin's selection theories, what is going on here is not degeneration but adaptation to the urban industrial environment. The urban industrial environment is very different from the paleolithic environment of the hunter/gatherers, and a new kind of human is evolving. That the new humans could not survive as hunter/gatherers is true, but the hunter/gatherers equally cannot survive in our new setting.
> what is going on here is not degeneration but adaptation to the urban industrial environment
They aren't mutually exclusive. Both are occurring.
Suppose every human has the exact same number of children for the next 100 generations. A lot of new mutations will come into the gene pool, so there will be a great deal more mutations at the end of these 100 generations than there are now. Almost all of these mutations will be harmful, reducing intelligence, health, taste, social savvy, handsomeness, and so on. What virtually certainly happens in any organism living a natural life, say, squirrels in Chicago or in Northern Alaska, is that those with less of these mutations live longer and reproduce more. This maintains a balance between mutation and selection (because genomes with few mutations are positively selected for passage into the future).
However, things are probably *worse* than that. Not everyone has the same amount of kids. Within American Whites, you very likely have people with lower IQs and lower discipline/foresight having more kids. This is a second, separate cause of decline in these traits, in addition to accumulation of mutations.
Finally, you have the Mestizo population growing a lot in America while the White pop is steady. That makes that national IQ and discipline averages go down, and it's one reason why our GDP per capita might not grow at all, anymore.
These things, as n/a says, aren't happening super-fast, but they are happening. I wouldn't be shocked if you see a small but palpable difference in White American behavior and life one century from now, because of these genetic changes.
But, you're right that we are getting adapted to cities. Probably people who are chilled out in general, especially about crowding, are being strongly selected. They're the type who don't shrink from having three kids in a small house. Other traits are probably seeing even stronger selection. The desire to just have kids, in general, is surely being very, very strongly positively selected. So is the lack of strong ambition to be a doctor, CEO, or whatever job takes 50+ intensive hours a week and makes it more difficult to have 2, 3, 4 kids, than it would be for the same person if he had dropped out of medical school for some reason and become an insurance salesman.
"The desire to just have kids, in general, is surely being very, very strongly positively selected."
I think this factor is under-rated, in most considerations of racial doom for Whites. With the advent of voluntary birth control, and legalized abortion and homosexuality, a great host of people are taking their own genes out of the pool, and the White birth rate looks abismal.
However, this sets up a "bounce" in birthrates in future generations, as White "breeders by choice" become the norm, as the homosexually-inclined men and non-maternal women end their genetic lines.
Whites settled in tropical or semi-tropical climates in the Americas, India, Indonesia, Africa, etc experience genetic deterioration because very strong solar radiation found in those places damages DNA - http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/dnastack.htm
If you are of Northwestern or Northern European origin I wouldn't recommend settling anywhere below about 33 degrees north latitude - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north - for much of the year the intense solar radiation below that latitude will make you tired, irritable, and even ill. This is why White settlement never succeeded (or gradually fell apart) in the tropics, and only the semi-Semitic Spaniards could handle settling Latin America.
Book: "The Effects of Tropical Light on White Men" - http://www.archive.org/details/effectstropical00woodgoog
I think Greg Cochran is right that homosexuality is caused by a pathogen, and certainly not genetic. Your genes did not evolve to reduce your fertility, and homosexuality would do that in any plausible environment.
Nordman, I'm pretty sure it's tropical disease rather than light that did the trick.
"Nordman said...
The semi-Semitic Spaniards could handle settling Latin America."
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Everyone knows that Southern Europeans can get a tan as easily as Arabs or any other Middle-Easterners/Near-Easterners, so going from Spain to South America was more an acclimatization to their natural physical (and mental) predisposition, than European climate ever was.
For example the natives (either Biracial mongrels or Triracial mongrels, or just Mongoloid Amerindians), do not view the Southern European wogs as gringos, hence the reason behind why the natives they call "Gringos" are only the Northwestern European looking types, not the Southern European types whom they view as their equals (equal in mongrelization perhaps?).
During the times of colonization, the Northwest European settlers could not distinguish the Spaniards from the Natives (for obvious reasons), so they had to ask "Who is Spaniard?", this was the only way for Northwest Europeans to differentiate between the Spaniards and Natives in the crowds, since the Natives could not respond because they did not understand the language.
You will also notice the affinity between Southern Europeans and Southern American mongrels on the various "pseudo-anthropologist" forums (you know the kind were Eurafrican wank each others off to the "100% European" test results from 23andMe) such as Anthroscape, Forum Biodiversity, Anthocivitas and such, you will notice it is usually just Southern Europeans/Arabs followed by their flock of Southern American mongrels.
Well, after reading Nordman's and Rassafrassa's comments, I just became a whole lot dumber.
n/a should set an IQ test where a minimum score needs passing in order to comment. Guaranteed 90% of the...ahem..."Nordicists" would never be heard from again.
n/a is a Nordicist, moron.
Meds have lower average IQs, so setting an IQ standard would certainly exclude more of them. Sounds like a great idea.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Meds have lower average IQs, so setting an IQ standard would certainly exclude more of them. Sounds like a great idea."
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Great idea indeed,
Let us have a look at the average IQ distribution among dagos:
Basilicata (IQ-89),
Campania (IQ-87),
Puglia (IQ-88),
Sardinia (IQ-87),
Sicily (IQ-86).
There is no IQ data for Calabria, so instead accept this photographic sample of a representative Calabrian actor, Leopoldo Trieste:
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3442/r81r81.png
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8310/r82r82.png
Looking at how they actually look like, it is not surprising that these westernised orientals have the same IQ as their racial brothers, the arabs.
For example the natives (either Biracial mongrels or Triracial mongrels, or just Mongoloid Amerindians), do not view the Southern European wogs as gringos, hence the reason behind why the natives they call "Gringos" are only the Northwestern European looking types, not the Southern European types whom they view as their equals (equal in mongrelization perhaps?).
Complete BS. Northeastern European-looking types are just as likely to earn the sobriquet.
During the times of colonization, the Northwest European settlers could not distinguish the Spaniards from the Natives (for obvious reasons), so they had to ask "Who is Spaniard?", this was the only way for Northwest Europeans to differentiate between the Spaniards and Natives in the crowds, since the Natives could not respond because they did not understand the language.
Okay...
You will also notice the affinity between Southern Europeans and Southern American mongrels on the various "pseudo-anthropologist" forums (you know the kind were Eurafrican wank each others off to the "100% European" test results from 23andMe) such as Anthroscape, Forum Biodiversity, Anthocivitas and such, you will notice it is usually just Southern Europeans/Arabs followed by their flock of Southern American mongrels.
Those forums demonstrate two things.
The first is that WNs' solitary masterstroke thus far has been encouraging southern and certain eastern types, who are typically less racially inhibited (non-existent guilt factor), to run around the net (and perhaps real life) making the 'case for race.' (Jews are rightly cringing.)
The second and from my perspective (and yours, if you understood what's good for you, at this point in time) more important thing is that all sorts of people have an innate interest in racial belonging, in investigating the world about them and making distinctions between like and unlike. All this activity is far from necessarily part of some attempt to make a "claim on whiteness," although it can seem that way (and will seem that the more they receive input from racial-nationalist types, which in my opinion is counter-productive if separatism is the objective).
"Silver said...
The second and from my perspective (and yours, if you understood what's good for you, at this point in time)"
What is good for me? What is good for me is not calling people like Leopolde Trieste "white".
Or using erroneous terms like "Melanochroi" (so called "dark whites") which is just a euphemism for whitewashed arabs, a fallacy used to describe non-white europeans (Meds) or non-european caucasoid (Indids).
What is good for me is kepping the White race actually white and not mixing it with delusional arabesque greasy, big nosed, frizzly haired, dark eyed swarthoids who think they are whiter than Max Von Sydow.
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"Silver said...
more important thing is that all sorts of people have an innate interest in racial belonging, in investigating the world about them and making distinctions between like and unlike. All this activity is far from necessarily part of some attempt to make a "claim on whiteness," although it can seem that way (and will seem that the more they receive input from racial-nationalist types, which in my opinion is counter-productive if separatism is the objective)."
Mediterraneans can have their own nationalism if they wish, but what they are doing instead parasiting our racial Nationalism and trying to alter it to fit their own needs. Because of some of you may or may not know, Latin nationalism is not the same as our Northwestern European nationalism, we can see it in Mussolini Nationalism, compared to Hitler Nationalism. Latin nationalism is based on culture and traditions and a want to protect their land giving very little importance to race if none at all(very much like muslims and other afro-asiatics), while Northwestern European Nationalism is based on Race and Blood reliation (folk) and trying to preserve said race from racial and ethnical aliens, while culture is still important for them it is not the main objective since Culture is Racial Construct and while you can restore a culture or make a new one, you can never restore a race.
Wogs are parasiting our nationalism (along with jews and others) to alterate our nationalism unto making it more of a cultural thing than a racial thing.
To which I would say, FUCK OFF WOGS!
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"Silver said...
(Jews are rightly cringing.)"
How so? Knowing that jews are using Southern Europeans as biological weapons against Whites, jews themselves are behind the promotion of Southern European (which most jews fit unto, hence the reason behind why jews usually call themselves "Italian" or "Spanish", because they look alike) which is the reason behind why they are pushing "Latin" types like Enrique Iglesias as being a great "Latin Lover"(a guy who is a Jewish Filipino but unsurprisingly whom even with that still fit like a charm in Southern Europe, which shows the racial affinity that meds share with non-Europeans.)
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"Silver said...
(and will seem that the more they receive input from racial-nationalist types, which in my opinion is counter-productive if separatism is the objective)."
Sorry, but no matter how much you will repeat your lies and deceit, you won't make yourself and your ilk white:
Here is a White (Northwest European) skull:
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/6103/r01r01.jpg
And here is a Med (Southern European) skull:
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9130/r02r02.jpg
Anyone that will claim both to belong to the same race is either delirious or a hypocritical non-white wannabes.
Did you just compare a skull from a man to a skull from a woman, completely ignoring that male skulls are much larger than female skulls?
Also, how to fuck did you get Penelope Cruz's skull?
You disgust me, graverobber.
"Anonymous said...
Did you just compare a skull from a man to a skull from a woman, completely ignoring that male skulls are much larger than female skulls?"
Just no:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7230/r03r03.jpg
This White (Northwestern European) woman skull is as tall and thin as the Northwestern European male examplar I used previously.
The difference is indeed race-wise and not gender-wise.
n/a is a Nordicist, moron.
Meds have lower average IQs, so setting an IQ standard would certainly exclude more of them. Sounds like a great idea.
LOL
I know of a few "Nords" who won't make the cut and one Med who will. That's what matters, you blithering idiot.
Let's all just relax, kidnap Penelope Cruz, and use our cocks to measure her skull.
I know of a few "Nords" who won't make the cut and one Med who will. That's what matters, you blithering idiot.
Anti-racist commenting on racial differences in intelligence: "I know stupid white people and smart black people. That's what matters, you blithering idiot."
Let's all just relax, kidnap Penelope Cruz, and use our cocks to measure her skull.
Swarthoid brilliance on display.
Anti-racist commenting on racial differences in intelligence: "I know stupid white people and smart black people. That's what matters, you blithering idiot."
It does appear we are dealing with the left side of the bell curve in these comments. The point, dolt, is that n/a should at least attempt to clean up the comments because they are filled with idiots, Nord or not. The filter should be a minimum IQ score which YOU, obviously, would fail and we would no longer have to listen to your nonsensical garbage. Thanks for making my point! lol
Guilty (Welsh).
Cyd's self-delusion is amusing. The only things he contributes to the comments are vulgarity, graphic descriptions of homosexual sex acts, petulant temper tantrums, and illogical ranting.
Rassen,
Listen here, you cretin. Everything you're saying has been said before (and said much, much better, I can assure you). You're certainly not telling me anything new.
You ask "how does that help me?" It helps because it demonstrates that other kinds recognize racial interests of their own -- they're not as hellbent on inviting themselves into WN as you think. So if they define themselves away from whiteness/nordishness/call it what you will, then it helps by definition since you don't have to ask them to leave; they're leaving anyway.
Well, if they followed through with action on their professed beliefs they'd leave, or at least they'd talk about parting ways. Reasons they don't do that is that many aren't aware it's an option, or it's too "distant" an option, or it's not economically enticing, or it conflicts too much with more immediate objectives, or they have ties etc. But regardless of the fact that they don't follow through it provides you with an opportunity to exploit -- if you're smart enough to exploit it.
Mediterraneans can have their own nationalism if they wish, but what they are doing instead parasiting our racial Nationalism and trying to alter it to fit their own needs.
It could be I'm way off the mark here but I don't see much of this going on. Most of my friends (shit, thinking about it, virtually every single one, lol) are some form of southern european or "med" or another. In all my time I can recall only two who openly expressed what I now recognize as "WN-ish" ideas. Online it does seem to be another matter, but I suspect a lot of it is just the attempt to adjust to the lightning pace of demographic change and/or cultural incoherency; I doubt their hearts are really in "WN" at all. (One reason I welcome posts like yours is that they clear up any doubts quick smart.)
Wogs are parasiting our nationalism (along with jews and others) to alterate our nationalism unto making it more of a cultural thing than a racial thing.
Maybe, but "culturism" can also stand on its own two feet. Dude, if you look around the world there's no just no question that what a racialist would describe as racially disparate types routinely come together on the basis of culture. (Though you'd be right that there's probably some subtle racism at play too, since humans try, as they ever do, to one up each other.) It's no surprise at all that you'd see groups advancing cultural politics.
Lastly, Jews cringe at med-types spreading racialist ideas because they tend to view any pro-white race talk as bad for them, regardless of who it's coming from. And they may well be cringing at the sheer stupidity and/or self-loathing (in cases where that is what is occurring).
Rassen,
You ask "how does that help me?" It helps because it demonstrates that other kinds recognize racial interests of their own -- they're not as hellbent on inviting themselves into WN as you think. So if they define themselves away from whiteness/nordishness/call it what you will, then it helps by definition since you don't have to ask them to leave; they're leaving anyway.
Well, if they followed through with action on their professed beliefs they'd leave, or at least they'd talk about parting ways. Reasons they don't do that is that many aren't aware it's an option, or it's too "distant" an option, or it's not economically enticing, or it conflicts too much with more immediate objectives, or they have ties etc. But regardless of the fact that they don't follow through it provides you with an opportunity to exploit -- if you're smart enough to exploit it.
Mediterraneans can have their own nationalism if they wish, but what they are doing instead parasiting our racial Nationalism and trying to alter it to fit their own needs.
It could be I'm way off the mark here but I don't see much of this going on. Most of my friends (shit, thinking about it, virtually every single one, lol) are some form of southern european or "med" or another. In all my time I can recall only two who openly expressed what I now recognize as "WN-ish" ideas. Online it does seem to be another matter, but I suspect a lot of it is just the attempt to adjust to the lightning pace of demographic change and/or cultural incoherency; I doubt their hearts are really in "WN" at all. (One reason I welcome posts like yours is that they clear up any doubts quick smart.)
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Wogs are parasiting our nationalism (along with jews and others) to alterate our nationalism unto making it more of a cultural thing than a racial thing.
Maybe, but "culturism" can also stand on its own two feet. Dude, if you look around the world there's no just no question that what a racialist would describe as racially disparate types routinely come together on the basis of culture. (Though you'd be right that there's probably some subtle racism at play too, since humans try, as they ever do, to one up each other.) It's no surprise at all that you'd see groups advancing cultural politics.
Lastly, Jews cringe at med-types spreading racialist ideas because they tend to view any pro-white race talk as bad for them, regardless of who it's coming from. And they may well be cringing at the sheer stupidity and/or self-loathing (in cases where that is what is occurring).
Pardon the multiple posts. Some times longer posts post sometimes they don't ("URL too large" message).
Rassenhygieniker provided no evidence for the skulls he linked to being of the provenance he claimed.
They obviously didn't come from anything resembling a scientific source given the rank absurdity of the skulls being displayed next to pictures of celebrities, one of whom is even still alive.
Also there’s the issue that even if Rassenhygieniker is right about where the skulls came from, you can’t let someone get away with cherrypicking two skulls which could be far more dissimilar than the average.
Only a true moron like Silver would fall for that one.
Well, if they followed through with action on their professed beliefs they'd leave, or at least they'd talk about parting ways.
What professed belief?
I'm not aware of any of the type people you're talking about saying that Southern Europeans aren't White.
Reasons they don't do that is that many aren't aware it's an option, or it's too "distant" an option, or it's not economically enticing, or it conflicts too much with more immediate objectives, or they have ties etc.
Also there's the little issue that Southern Europeans are:
A. Massively intermarried with Northern Europeans.
B. Too small a minority in the United States, England, and Australia for there to a realistic chance that they could properly defend their interests separate from Northern Europeans.
If the Government of America didn't let in so many non-Europeans, maybe it would make sense for Southern European-American to go their own way.
But with the non-European population being as large as it is now, that would be suicide.
There's isn't a chance in hell that Southern Europeans would have a chance against the non-Europeans who outnumber them.
Hell, the day is coming where even all European-Americans will be outnumbered and in serious trouble, much less Southern European-Americans.
Reginald's mendacity continues.
Reginald's mendacity continues.
Oh yeah, sure. Rassafrassa and Silver (the Paki), well no mendacity, not to mention lunacy and outright insanity there. LOL
I guess when a topic does not go along with preconceived biases of certain "Nords", then it is mendacity. Time to look up the word, would be my suggestion.
graphic descriptions of homosexual sex acts
Better to describe than partake in, wouldn't you say, cock gobbler? Prostesting too much, hmmmm?? ;)
"Silver said...
they're not as hellbent on inviting themselves into WN as you think. So if they define themselves away from whiteness/nordishness/call it what you will, then it helps by definition since you don't have to ask them to leave; they're leaving anyway."
Silver, my nigga stop with your lies, it is as it has been said before, WOGS want to pretend to be White to have easier access to Blond women as to mongrelise our race and upgrade theirs (just like jews and other non-whites).
Here greek shitskin Marcos Baghdatis with his White girlfriend:
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6736/r50r50.jpg
It is like the jews, they got Israel but there is still more jews parasiting our countries then there is in Israel and they are still intermarrying with our women, same with Meds.
Basically mediterraneans and jews are niggers, no they are worse than niggers because while niggers go after Northwestern European woman because they hate being niggers and can't stand negresses (their own females) at least they are not trying to pretend to be White, unlike mediterraneans.
Mediterraneans and jews are therefore lower than niggers and should henceforth from now on be referred soleley as "Unterneger" (Subnigger).
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"Nameless Unterneger said...
Rassenhygieniker provided no evidence for the skulls he linked to being of the provenance he claimed."
Do you need any source for that? Anyone with a little bit of common sense would notice the discrepancy in pigmentation (pale/fair skin, light hair colouration, light eye colouration), height and skull size differences between Northwestern Europeans and Southern Europeans.
But if you insist, the Northwestern European skull exemplar came from the Anthropological Department of the Museum for Zoology and Ethnology in Dresden, the Mediterranean skull exemplar came from the Museum of Natural History in Vienna.
Anyway, as the ignorant who claimed that male skulls are larger than female skulls, here is a comparison between a male and female Northwestern European skulls.
On top a Northwestern European female skull, on bottom a Northwestern European male skull.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9992/r100r100.jpg
Clearly they are similar, unlike the mediterranean skull I used as an exemplar before.
Now another comparison between Northwestern European Whites and Southern European arabised shitskins.
First the Northestern Europeans.
Male Northwestern European from Sweden:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/706/r34r34.jpg
Female Northwestern European from Germany:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9048/r35r35.jpg
Male Northwestern European from Northern Germany:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3929/r36r36.jpg
Female Northwestern European from Denmark:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5374/r37r37.jpg
Now let us compare those with Mediterraneans.
Male Mediterranean from Corsica:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8960/r46r46.jpg
Female Mediterranean from Italy:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6221/r47r47.jpg
Male Mediterranean from Corsica:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2949/r48r48.jpg
Female Mediterranean from Spain:
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/535/r49r49.jpg
Obviously no further word is to be spoken for anyone, as it plain obvious that these two groups are separated unto two distinct categories which are White and non-white.
I agree with Rassenhygieniker's argument, that northern European/southern European separation is the only wholesome and prudent policy. However, his example of the tennis player, that Baghdatis fellow, is inaccurate. Bagdhatis is Cypriot, an island with is not European (EU membership is preposterous), but Levantine Mediterranean, populated by Turks and Greek-speaking 'Christians'. A genetic scatter map on this very site shows the great difference between actual Greeks and Cypriots (as wide as that between Greeks and Swiss), and further the huge gulf between Cypriots and actual Europeans. Also, Baghdatis has a Lebanese immigrant father. His surname appears an Arabic one slightly Grecized in form.
Finally, as the white Mexican elite send their darkest dregs to the US, southern Europe unloaded the same into Australia, America, etc. The natives remaining (outside of the metropolises, which are sewers) look different.
Also, it seems that in the mutual exchange of populations in the 1920s between Greece and Turkey, some 2 million Greek-speaking Christians from Asia Minor arrived in Greece. Their descendants now number 4 and a half million, or forty percent of the entire population.
No on would doubt that these migrants were merely Hellenophone Asiatic Anatolians who had retained some vestiges of the Macedonian conquerors' language and arts. So yes, mongrelism writ large, only in the mountainous villages would you expect to find the primitive, truest Greek phenotype.
Also there's the little issue that Jews are:
A. Massively intermarried with Europeans.
B. Too small a minority in the United States, England, and Australia for there to a realistic chance that they could properly defend their interests separate from Europeans.
If the Government of America didn't let in so many non-whites, maybe it would make sense for Jewish-Americans to go their own way.
But with the non-white population being as large as it is now, that would be suicide.
There's isn't a chance in hell that Jews would have a chance against the non-whites who outnumber them.
Hell, the day is coming where even all White Americans will be outnumbered and in serious trouble, much less Jewish-Americans.
"Anonymous said...
However, his example of the tennis player, that Baghdatis fellow, is inaccurate. Bagdhatis is Cypriot, an island with is not European (EU membership is preposterous), but Levantine Mediterranean, populated by Turks and Greek-speaking 'Christians'."
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Seriously, I heard the same claim from Macedonian who say that Greeks are "semites", but to me either be they Macedonians or Greeks, or Cypriots all look quite Semitic/Altaic to me and still even if he is (Marcos Baghdatis) Cypriot, how is he any different looking from these greeks?
http://dienekes.awardspace.com/texts/greekmorphological/
Greece had it's lot of non-white blood infusion, one amongst many would be Turkic blood for example.
Greeks are mediterraneans just like Levantine Christians, Dienekes Pontikos (who is greek) for example does not even deny it, but instead says that greeks are closer related to Northern Africans than they are to Northern Europeans.
Also, from my own experience the only Greeks that looked the less non-white were the Greek-Americans who had extensive Northwestern European ancestry.
"Anonymous said...
only in the mountainous villages would you expect to find the primitive, truest Greek phenotype."
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Such as this?
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4020/r53r53.jpg
"Anonymous said...
Also there's the little issue that Jews are:
A. Massively intermarried with Europeans.
B. Too small a minority in the United States, England, and Australia for there to a realistic chance that they could properly defend their interests separate from Europeans.
If the Government of America didn't let in so many non-whites, maybe it would make sense for Jewish-Americans to go their own way.
But with the non-white population being as large as it is now, that would be suicide.
There's isn't a chance in hell that Jews would have a chance against the non-whites who outnumber them.
Hell, the day is coming where even all White Americans will be outnumbered and in serious trouble, much less Jewish-Americans."
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Ha ha, well played. What can be applied to Southern Europeans can be applied to jews as well, here goes one more affinity betwen the two groups to add to the list.
Ha ha, well played. What can be applied to Southern Europeans can be applied to jews as well
While Southern Europeans may be more Racialist and/or Tribal than Northern Europeans, they are still significantly less Tribal than Jews.
Just as importantly, Jews have far more money per capita than any kind of European-American, and parlay it into far more political influence.
Therefore the analogy doesn't fit.
Maybe in the long term even the powerful Jews will be intimidated enough by all the non-Europeans about that they'll start siding with White Americans.
You certainly won’t be able to stop them, if that's what they want to do.
Even Alternative Right has Jewish writers, so this shows how outside the mainstream the idea of excluding Jews is in America.
Jared Taylor says Jews are White, and I’m inclined to agree with him.
I used to think it made sense to say Jews aren’t White.
But the thing is that the main reason I thought this was because Jews are so hostile to people who are closely related to them, genetically speaking, such as Europeans.
But then I came across these Nordicist people, and it came to me that who are we Europeans to judge the Jews?
The only reason the Jews have more European blood on their hands than Nordicists is because the Jews are far more intelligent and practical minded.
If Europeans can produce Nordicists and still be considered White, Jews can produce their monsters and still be considered White.
The previous two comments are from Niginald.
While Southern Europeans may be more Racialist and/or Tribal than Northern Europeans, they are still significantly less Tribal than Jews.
The fact that Mediterraneans in general have never been racialist throughout their history, that they have more non-European admixture than Northern Europeans, and the wanton miscegenation they willingly committed and advocated for in Latin America attests to the opposite conclusion. Southern Europeans may appear more ethnically conscious in America but that is because they have always been a small minority like Jews.
Racialism came from Germanics, they were the pioneers of racial anthropology. Racialism and Nordicism have been linked from the beginning. It reached its height with Americans and Germans.
So we see how fraudulent Reginaldo's racialism is. The minute Nords want to preserve themselves Latins like him become like Jews, jealous and spiteful. For this he calls them "monsters."
Niginald's had quite the change of heart regarding Jews. Niginald used to be virulently anti-Jewish, but now he wants to ally with Jews to destroy Northern Europeans.
Jared Taylor says Jews are White, and I’m inclined to agree with him.
Jared Taylor wants to avoid the ostracism and distraction that comes with the Jewish question and the Holocaust. From a strategic point of view it's smart. He's also an elitist so Jewish success appeals to him. Like David Duke, Jared tries for the middle ground and conservative approach rather than radical.
Jews are non-European in origin, this is a fact.
I agree that niggernaldo is a piece of shit, trying to get himself into our glorious movement but we aint gonna let him! America with its booming economy is the world leader, ever vicorious in Afganistan and i-raq and the future is bright! Oue glorious movement attracts the greatest and highest minds of the Nordic race who now are on Welfare because of the jews and greeks. We are sick and tired of these medish mudmen taking our pussy, i can´t get any because of these FUCKING HOOK NOSED KIKES AND GREASY HAIRY WOPS! I FEEL LIKE HUNTING ME SOME MEDISH NIGGERS AND SMASHING OPEN THEIR FUCKING HEADS WITH A BRICK AND PISSING INTO THEIR DEAD SKULLS!
"Anonymous said...
Cyd's self-delusion is amusing. The only things he contributes to the comments are vulgarity, graphic descriptions of homosexual sex acts, petulant temper tantrums, and illogical ranting."
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Mediterraneans are easily swayed by the sexual life, so they are more prone to thinking with their genitalias and resolve their "problems" (such as Northwestern European preservationism, which goes against the systemic Judeo-Meridionalist miscegenation propagandism aimed toward and against Northwestern Europeans, either male or female) by resorting to sexual accusations, sexual insults and/or sexual threats such as this is the best these feeble minded mongrels are able to come up with (just like niggers and their fellow arabs).
Whereas Northwestern Europeans process thoughts in a more complex matter as decent people would, such as one would process information to resolve a set of task brought forth toward him and complete each tasks as one would solve an equation.
This shows our intellectual and thought processing to be different, for example the meridionalist element of France sees each day as being nothing but "Metro, boulot, dodo" (Subway, work and sleep), the mediterranean sees everyday life as a chore, a burden which makes him lazy to the task, just like negroes and other arabs who instead prefer to stay at home doing nothing while being parasites to the society, that shows the simplicity and lack of substance that pours out of the desert-rat races mind.
Whereas the Northwestern Europeans sees it as a task ordained from the time of their birth, tasks that need to be done in order to grow and make life better for themselves and their fellow folk. This is why a Socialist society only works under homogeneous Northwestern European societies, if you add any other races the system becomes unstable due to alien races parasitizing and exploiting the system. Which is what we can witness nowadays, Northwestern Europeans work, accomplish their tasks, pay their taxes and the racial aliens rape, kill, steal and such while surviving and procreating endlessly under the protection and asylum of the parasitic Judeo-Meridionalist trojan horse.
The glorious Nordic Aryan Titan man will rise again I assure you all.
The Jews and their greasy Medish allies will be destroyed.
It's the Jews fault that blonde Nordic-Aryan airhead cheerleader girls in high school and college are getting gang banged by Negroids.
All those poor Nordic airheads in the Obama crowds with their "We Believe in Change" posters, they are just victims of Medish evil doers and Jooos.
The Nordic Aryan Kempians will march to victory.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to put in my Johnny Rebel CD and open's up my Karl Earlson book, while I fantasize about creating the Tuscan Renaissance or that my ancestors were ancient Greeks. Tonight will be even better when I dream of all those blonde women I'll never get to touch. Let's just hope Marcos Baghdatis doesn't show up again and ruin it for me.
RassaNigger's latest delusional screed on October 9, 2010 3:49 PM includes:
Mediterraneans are easily swayed by the sexual life, so they are more prone to thinking with their genitalias and resolve their "problems" by resorting to sexual accusations, sexual insults and/or sexual threats such as this is the best these feeble minded mongrels are able to come up with
Whew, what a mouthful from the "Nigger". I suggest that this turd go back and read some of his brethren's unprovoked remarks on these same comment sections before he spews embarrassingly empty rhetoric. The records will show that these accusations from the "Nigger" are in fact hollow and the infractions are done by Nords. Not that I need any more evidence of his intellectual emptiness and vapidity, this is just pure gravy.
As to being "swayed by the sexual life", possibly true though not really, yet oblivious to the "Nigger" is that SE are not the ones who keep the Thai boy-sex business open. Go there and you'd think the plane landed in England or Germany. I presume the "Nigger" is ok with boy-sex?
Whereas Northwestern Europeans process thoughts in a more complex matter as decent people would, such as one would process information to resolve a set of task brought forth toward him and complete each tasks as one would solve an equation.
Lol
Says the "Nigger" while it escapes him that logic and mathematical processes were not a Nordic invention, now were they?
This is no surpise coming from a proud Skadiphile, or should that be Shittypile? No matter as I only do this for the fun of it. A parting conundrum for the "Nigger"...
Afro-Germans, African-Germans or Black Germans are defined as the Black African community and diaspora in Germany. While it is the largest Black African diaspora in Central Europe, the black communities in the United Kingdom and France are on average ten times larger.
You got something hiding in the woodpile that you are not telling everyone, RassaNigger?
Excellent parody on October 9, 2010 4:02 PM and October 9, 2010 11:43 AM.
We, the proud Nordish Warrior Race are sick and tired of being sick and tired! All these negroid porragrease, slimy greeks and evil jooz is keeping us down, taking our women like that slut who gets banged by greek shitskin Nick Bagdadis or whatever the fuck his name is, driving the Nordic Master Race to go on welfare and post on this blog. When I see these race traitor whores getting banged by subniggers I think of the time when the early English settlers would skin a White woman alive if she was caught having sex with a mongoloid indian so that she too could be a red person. And now were run by drunken Irishmen and Jooz!
(just like niggers and their fellow arabs).
----> You do realize Northern Europeans lose their virginity on average at earlier ages than Southern Europeans, and also have more sexual parterns. Also, the women are FAR MORE promiscuous than people of the Middle East you are insulting. In case you haven't realized, your women are some of the loosest on the planet, and comp temporary Northern Europeans are degenerate.
lol...delusional twat.
The native American by the middle of the nineteenth century was rapidly becoming a distinct type. Derived from the Teutonic part of the British Isles, and being almost purely Nordic, he was on the point of developing physical peculiarities of his own, slightly variant from those of his English forefathers, and corresponding rather with the idealistic Elizabethan than with the materialistic Hanoverian Englishman. The Civil War, however, put a severe, perhaps fatal, check to the development and expansion of this splendid type, by destroying great numbers of the best breeding stock on both sides, and by breaking up the home ties of many more. If the war had not occurred these same men with their descendants would have populated the Western States instead of the racial nondescripts who are now flocking there.
The prosperity that followed the war attracted hordes of newcomers who were welcomed by the native Americans to operate factories, build railroads, and fill up the waste spaces—"developing the country" it was called.
These new immigrants were no longer exclusively members of the Nordic race as were the earlier ones who came of their own impulse to improve their social conditions. The transportation lines advertised America as a land flowing with milk and honey, and the European governments took the opportunity to unload upon careless, wealthy, and hospitable America the sweepings of their jails and asylums. The result was that the new immigration, while it still included many strong elements from the north of Europe, contained a large and increasing number of the weak, the broken, and the mentally crippled of all races drawn from the lowest stratum of the Mediterranean basin and the Balkans, together with hordes of the wretched, submerged populations of the Polish Ghettos.
With a pathetic and fatuous belief in the efficacy of American institutions and environment to reverse or obliterate immemorial hereditary tendencies, these newcomers were welcomed and given a share in our land and prosperity. The American taxed himself to sanitate and educate these poor helots, and as soon as they could speak English, encouraged them to enter into the political life, first of municipalities, and then of the nation.
The result is showing plainly in the rapid decline in the birth rate of native Americans because the poorer classes of Colonial stock, where they still exist, will not bring children into the world to compete in the labor market with the Slovak, the Italian, the Syrian, and the Jew. The native American is too proud to mix socially with them, and is gradually withdrawing from the scene, abandoning to these aliens the land which he conquered and developed. The man of the old stock is being crowded out of many country districts by these foreigners, just as he is to-day being literally driven off the streets of New York City by the swarms of Polish Jews. These immigrants adopt the language of the native American; they wear his clothes; they steal his name; and they are beginning to take his women, but they seldom adopt his religion or understand his ideals, and while he is being elbowed out of his own home the American looks calmly abroad and urges on others the suicidal ethics which are exterminating his own race.
As to what the future mixture will be it is evident that in large sections of the country the native American will entirely disappear. He will not intermarry with inferior races, and he cannot compete in the sweat shop and in the street trench with the newcomers. Large cities from the days of Rome, Alexandria, and Byzantium have always been gathering points of diverse races, but New York is becoming a cloaca gentium which will produce many amazing racial hybrids and some ethnic horrors that will be beyond the powers of future anthropologists to unravel.
-Madsion Grant, The Passing of the Great Race
LMAO @ Miggles on October 9, 2010 10:14 PM
Miggles have you proven you are even European yet? How could you let your hero, MG, down by acting low and weak? I mean, he states in black and white that...
native American by the middle of the nineteenth century was rapidly becoming a distinct type. Derived from the Teutonic part of the British Isles, and being almost purely Nordic, he was on the point of developing physical peculiarities of his own, slightly variant from those of his English forefathers, and corresponding rather with the idealistic Elizabethan than with the materialistic Hanoverian Englishman.
and the subsequent immigration as well consisted of...
strong elements from the north of Europe
What happened to you and the handful of others here? I don't recall MG saying anything about Nords being sneaky, fearful, anonymous cunts, did he? Maybe I just breezed over it? You're the expert there, hopefully you'll shed some light on me.
As for some of these Madison Grant blurbs, I cannot help but feel this overwhelming feeling to go "Waaaah waaaah waaaah" every time I read it. What a whiny little puss he was for someone who came from the "superior" race.
Whites would be more than happy to oblige if blacks desired separation, but if whites desire separation from blacks, blacks howl with outrage.
Whites would be more than happy to oblige if Jews desired separation, but if whites desire separation from Jews, Jews howl with outrage.
Northern Europeans would be more than happy to oblige if meds desired separation, but if Northern Europeans desire separation from meds, meds howl with outrage.
And why are terms such as "shit skin", "subhuman", "subnigger" etc mandatory for this "separation" argument? I fail to understand why one is necessary for the other and maybe RassaNigger can help clarify this along with the slew of anonymous cunts, right Mr Miggles?
You can go back through my comments and I have maintained my point of contention and it does not involve ALL Nords. It is the unfortunate dregs that cannot stick to specific arguments and points. Not me.
Cyd, do you support separation of Northern Europeans and Southern Europeans? No equivocation or evasion. This is a simple yes or no question.
Whites would be more than happy to oblige if blacks desired separation, but if whites desire separation from blacks, blacks howl with outrage.
Whites would be more than happy to oblige if Jews desired separation, but if whites desire separation from Jews, Jews howl with outrage.
Northern Europeans would be more than happy to oblige if meds desired separation, but if Northern Europeans desire separation from meds, meds howl with outrage.
Howl? More like whine nasally and gesticulate wildly.
What professed belief?
That their racial being is an important, non-negotiable aspect of their existence. That's what it's about, isn't it, all that race talk, history talk, pic-posting etc? If it's important to them as their often fiery rhetoric suggests it is you'd expect them to take some sort of action towards realizing racial or racial-cultural ends, even if that only means talking about ways to do so.
I'm not aware of any of the type people you're talking about saying that Southern Europeans aren't White.
If anything is obvious it should be that "White" is a decidedly arbitrary concept. In a general sense, with respect to the rest of the world, yeah, sure. But with respect to a "natural-level" human grouping which takes history and "historical belonging" into account -- which is what people are typically after, a sense of belonging, the more historically grounded it is the more spiritually nourishing -- then, no, by itself it's not much at all. Of course, many claim that it's enough but as can be seen people for whom "whiteness" per se has traditionally been a much more important aspect of their being tend to reject those advances. As such, it's just incredible (to me) that anyone would want to be a pathetic hanger-on among people whose presence they need to argue their way into when there exists a far more natural grouping for them which celebrates their existence rather than apologizing for it. (This of course goes for everyone.)
rassen,
Silver, my nigga stop with your lies, it is as it has been said before, WOGS want to pretend to be White to have easier access to Blond women as to mongrelise our race and upgrade theirs (just like jews and other non-whites).
Well, some might "pretend to be White" while others might genuinely consider themselves so (rightly or wrongly) but I doubt that it has a great deal to do with having "easier access to Blond women" or, much more dubiously, out of some desire to "mongrelise [your] race."
(That said, I suppose it's true that some -- a tiny handful -- do it with the express purpose of "upgrading" their (our) kind -- which, if you accept the tenets of racialism, it would, as the dominant racial wing of the Brazilian elite of a century ago realized, actually do. Left at that alone, of course, it's highly incompatible with anything calling itself social democracy. As such, I'd rather ditch the racialism than ditch social democracy. Thankfully it's not a choice I have to make since I believe the two are compatible -- not that I'd expect firebrand like rassen to understand that.)
Anyway, back to your point about "easier access to Blonds." Er, open your eyes! "Pretending to be White" is hardly required for a non-white to access a blond these days (and it's been that way for decades, and in parts of Europe southern and eastern/southeastern, centuries). It's not as though blonds are everywhere all set to reject off-white males but come to reconsider in light of assurances that those males "really are white." Look, there might be scattered cases here and there where this goes on but in the main she's either open to racial others or she's not, and if not it's doubtful specious racial claims -- particularly when they clash so strikingly with the evidence before one's eyes -- would do much to sway her. So, that Bagdatis pic you posted, well, it takes two to tango doesn' it. (For an even more egregious example, in terms of the nordicity being reduced, check out <a href="http://www.google.com.au/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1024&bih=576&tbs=isch:1&&sa=X&ei=SEWxTOLpBISAvgOysLjSBQ&ved=0CCMQvwUoAQ&q=alex+fevola&spell=1>this</a>. Yikes, I think I can hear Oscar Yeager cracking his knuckles.)
Screwed up the link. Google for "Alex Fevola." (But just give me a second to duck for cover!)
Basically mediterraneans and jews are niggers, no they are worse than niggers because while niggers go after Northwestern European woman because they hate being niggers and can't stand negresses (their own females) at least they are not trying to pretend to be White, unlike mediterraneans.
Well, that's a hard racialist interpretation of human behavior. While there is not nothing to that interpretation, it fails quite spectacularly to account for most of what takes place as humans go about their lives. That is why American history is dotted with failed predictions of racial awakenings by otherwise eminent minds.
Consider the Madison Grant line about racial horrors that future anthropologists will struggle to unravel. While for racial revulsionists (like Rassen, MGLS, Fred Scrooby, n/a etc) that line, and the entire passage, is studded with profundity, taken at non-revulsionist face value it's actually uproariously funny -- I'm laughing damn hard right now, I can tell you.
To that you might reply well laugh hard now, asshole, because you won't be laughing long. True enough, if you had your way I wouldn't be. And I may yet regret ever having had anything to say about race. But the problem is while the hard racialist school of thought is, let us say, more than just a bit dehumanising, its observations about the quality of social interactions in mass-multiracial settings far too often ring true, such that modern/postmodern societies which claims such mass-multiracialism is a real boon cannot help but doom their populations to a lesser social (though not in all cases material) quality of life than would otherwise be the case and a lesser quality of social life than is necessary -- it just doesn't have to be this way. While clearly it's possible to Ckyd off the rails into pure revulsion (and, quite likely, self-hate), it's not remotely necessary, nor, imo, does it do much to provide the average person with a vision of something positive to be for (rather than merely against) which he can easily fit into his existing (hard-won, worthy) worldview.
Separation of Northern and Southern Europeans, a necessary and beneficial step, can be effected without fraternal bloodbath, or the vile curses written here by a few incendiaries.
Co-operation to deport foreign aliens from Europe, and arrangements for the few voluntary mixed unions could be done also without short-sighted hostility.
Finally, despite the assertions of chauvinists in both camps, the vast majority of Northern Europeans marry Northern Europeans, and Southern Europeans their kind. Higher birth rates and segregation would remedy all the exaggerated evils mentioned.
Oh, last point, the fact that the Cypriot tennis player has a Lebanese father, that the Phoenician Semitic element predominates in Cyprus (an Asiatic island a stone's throw away from Turkey and Syria, many miles from Europe) to an extent dissimilar to Greece, determine against using that example as its meaningless.
Persian bigwigs pay high prices for blonde Russian courtesans, is the Aryan derivation of their national name (Iran" proof of European identity? May my Aboriginal neighbour, who speaks English fluently and professes Anglicanism, pretend also to be an Englishman? A few Greek-speaking Christian Arabs on a Near-Eastern island prove nothing. My understanding, poor as it is, suggests that Greeks dislike Cypriot and Anatolian imitators, other than for ethnic chauvinist postures abroad.
I can't refrain (my classical education is my pride); as I remember it from history, Cyprus was colonised by the ancient Greeks as much as Jamaica was by the English. A few coastal towns and negligible intermixture. Genetic community between Cypriots and Europeans, even Greeks, is nonexistent.
The native peoples merely imbibed Greek language, and later during the Christian Byzantine period, their religion, which on the Middle-Eastern mainland were both more readily displaced. But on the whole, Greeks have their country, Swedes their own, so friendship doesn't require coexistence together.
While for racial revulsionists (like Rassen, MGLS, Fred Scrooby, n/a etc)
That's like one of those questions, which one is least like the others. WTF is a former leftist mischling doing in there? He's not a revulsionist he's the revulsion.
Hey, if you aren't revolted by miscegenation, even a little bit deep down despite all of the pro-miscegenation propaganda in our society, then I'd say you're a mouth-breathing retard who should find other conversations to engage in like sports and celebrity gossip.
Is this Rassen a troll or is it a real Skadi poster?
Silver, you're an intelligent guy. Why are you expending so much energy on posting on this cesspit of a blog?
Nobody will see this.
Baghdatis is partially Lebanese. It doesnt surprise me he has a blonde airhead looking girlfriend, though.
We should also mention that the Cypriots have a significantly different genetic history than other Hellenic people, although they are just as "Greek" as any Englishman or Austrian is "Germanic" IMO
Cyd, do you support separation of Northern Europeans and Southern Europeans? No equivocation or evasion. This is a simple yes or no question.
Please repost your question with an appropriate id. As you may have guessed, I do not like the spinelessness that fills these boards with posters remaining "anonymous". I will answer your question at that point.
Silver sure likes the sound of his Paki voice, doesn't he? blah blah blah
While clearly it's possible to Ckyd off the rails into pure revulsion (and, quite likely, self-hate)
Just another, in a long line of examples that Silver is not what he states he is. I do not take the time to comment and ridicule because of "self hate", which has to be the dumbest and clumsiest attempts at penny ante psychoanalysis one has seen. No, I do it out of self respect and pride. Silver's behavior is more in line of one actually "self hating". His latest logorrhea is filled with examples of such if he truly were a Serb-Greek. I'm afraid Silver's mendacity continues and some here just lap it up because he says the shit they want to hear.
Silver, you're an intelligent guy. Why are you expending so much energy on posting on this cesspit of a blog?
Nobody will see this.
I don't know. 'Cos I'm here, I guess. I have a grudging admiration for this n/a character, whose erudition vastly exceeds my own, and whose cutting down of opposing views has greatly impressed me.
Unfortunately, the truth is not enough.
Or let me put that differently.
Remember The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe? Remember how the ice queen forces Aslan's surrender by invoking that ancient law only to be trumped by Aslan's resurrection which was based on an even more ancient law? It's the same thing here. Yes, you hold a profound human truth in your grasp but there's an even deeper human truth underlying it, which when grasped allows one to greet your truth with a smile on his face and a spring in his step and racialism no longer need be the really dismal science. The MR boys are onto it and "PF" expresses it better in that west texas heidegger thread than I ever could. Still leaves you with ample heavy lifting to do, of course, but there's a very real sense in which doing so doesn't have to be all in the "me against the world" mode.
Anyway, you're right, here isn't the best place. Well where? Go the rounds with "Trucker Roy" on stormfront? Alex Linder, the revulsion there would be mutual. Steve Sailer's more interested in winning elections for republicans; Mangan, his retirement account. Hunted Walrus won't have me. I don't write well (or often) enough to attract interest to my own blog.
Remember The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe? Remember how the ice queen forces Aslan's surrender by invoking that ancient law only to be trumped by Aslan's resurrection which was based on an even more ancient law?
Well, I don't think any Nords here need to worry that Silver will be going after your blond women. As for your blond men....
"Confutatio said...
Is this Rassen a troll or is it a real Skadi poster?"
See? Just like I said before, mediterraneans are lazy, this guido can not even take two minutes to find it out for himself, but instead ask others to give the answer for him.
Anyway, here is a conversation I had on Skadi a couple of days ago about Southern Europeans sandniggers:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6103/r01r01.jpg
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"Anonymous said...
Oh, last point, the fact that the Cypriot tennis player has a Lebanese father, that the Phoenician Semitic element predominates in Cyprus (an Asiatic island a stone's throw away from Turkey and Syria, many miles from Europe) to an extent dissimilar to Greece, determine against using that example as its meaningless."
Well I agree that Greeks seem less semitic influenced than say Macedonians and Cypriots and there is a also a strong semitic influence in Crete, tennis player Eleni Daniilidou is a good exemplar of that.
But overall while the semitic influence is lower in Greece than in Macedonia, Cyprus and such, the Altaic influence is really strong. Here picture of Anatolid (Armenoid/Mediterranid) Greeks, during the riots in Athens:
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9130/r02r02.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7230/r03r03.jpg
Mediterraneans love to release their inner arab by chimpingout during riots, manifestations and such, this can be seen in all Southern European countries.
Man, this Rassenhygieniker guy really has some knowledge in anthropology and population genetics doesn't he? LOL he's a typical stormfront/Skadi clown.
Rassenhygieniker, what exactly does it mean to be 'Semitic influenced'? When did this 'influence' happen?
Greeks are biologically closer to their geographical neighbors in Europe OR Asia than they are the most distant in Europe. It wouldn't make any sense for Greeks to be closer to Swedes who live well over 1,000 miles away from them, than they are to Turks or Ashkenazi Jews.
There is no place in the world where Race A suddenly ends and Race B suddenly begins...it's usually just a gradual change.
"Anonymous said...
Man, this Rassenhygieniker guy really has some knowledge in anthropology and population genetics doesn't he? LOL he's a typical stormfront/Skadi clown.
Rassenhygieniker, what exactly does it mean to be 'Semitic influenced'? When did this 'influence' happen?
Greeks are biologically closer to their geographical neighbors in Europe OR Asia than they are the most distant in Europe. It wouldn't make any sense for Greeks to be closer to Swedes who live well over 1,000 miles away from them, than they are to Turks or Ashkenazi Jews.
There is no place in the world where Race A suddenly ends and Race B suddenly begins...it's usually just a gradual change."
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This was a point I addressed on Skadi:
Basically if you would follow historical invasions, all the Med countries of Europe received some amount of genetic contribution from the Afro-Asiatic hordes.
Genetic contribution was received for the Albanians and Greeks from the Turks, Phoenicians and other non-whites.
While Italians and Iberians received genes from Carthaginians, Saracens, Moors, Phoenicians and other non-whites.
The wogs (be they Europeans or not) are non-whites.
Southern Europeans don't mind Afro-Asiatics as long as they are fellow Christians, mainly because racially between Southern Europeans and Afro-Asiatics there is virtually no differences and if in some cases there are some differences they are negligible and buried under the obviously more dominant Afro-Asiatic traits.
Aside from that, the only thing that separates them is religion. Islam and Christianity, which are both in origin Afro-Asiatic religions and who were imported to us through the use of Southern European Meds.
Not to mention how Southern Europeans are renown for their legendary ability (and taste) for race-mixing (contrast that with our colonies and theirs).
This is what I said on Skadi and goes along with what has been already said here:
"Anonymous said...
The fact that Mediterraneans in general have never been racialist throughout their history, that they have more non-European admixture than Northern Europeans, and the wanton miscegenation they willingly committed and advocated for in Latin America attests to the opposite conclusion."
Oh and why is Silverus Pontius being referred to as a "paki"? I thought he was a self-professed "med"?
"Basically if you would follow historical invasions, all the Med countries of Europe received some amount of genetic contribution from the Afro-Asiatic hordes.
Genetic contribution was received for the Albanians and Greeks from the Turks, Phoenicians and other non-whites."
---> science doesn't identify 'whites' and 'nonwhites'.
The Phoenicians never colonized Greece, and they would not have been that drastically different from Greeks in the first place.
The genetic similarities Greeks share with Anatolians is a prehistoric one, thousands of years before classical Greece even existed.
Since classical times, Greece has received far more genetic input from the North...Aka from the Slavs during the Christian era than anywhere else.
Greeks simply cannot predominately descend from historic Turks/anatolians because Today's Anatolians are about 15% Central Asian-Turkic, while Greeks are not Turkic/Central Asian in the least (perhaps under 1%).
The Moors/Saracens had about a 5-6% paternal genetic impact on Sicily and Iberia, and less than 2% in most regions of Italy. Sure, I'll admit that.
Oh and why is Silverus Pontius being referred to as a "paki"? I thought he was a self-professed "med"?
I surmise it is because you're a fucking moron.
Shouldn't we at least demand RassaNigger put up ONE comment absent of gross errors, baseless claims, unfounded biases, and innuendo before he, like Appollonian, completely ruins this blog? Skadi is definitely the cave for him, maybe he should go back and discuss his intelligent anthropological ruminations there?
"The fact that Mediterraneans in general have never been racialist throughout their history, that they have more non-European admixture than Northern Europeans, and the wanton miscegenation they willingly committed and advocated for in Latin America attests to the opposite conclusion."
-----> The Spaniards although somewhat brutal just did not push the natives off the land and commit genocide/democide against the natives like the founders of North America did.
As for miscegenation, LMFAO...North Europeans are the kings of it and if you're not an idiot who lives under a rock you should know this. Britain has the highest inter racial marriage statistics on the planet, they are the most race mixing people on the planet. And white Americans (of predominately North European stock) are not that far behind.
If you see a European woman with a little mix raced litter and nappy haired child, you can be sure she is of Northern Derivation.
"Anonymous said...
---> science doesn't identify 'whites' and 'nonwhites'."
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Yes it does. If you are a japanese or korean and get yourself tested, you are going to get listed in the "Eastern Asian" category and hence in the non-white category, same if you are a bantou negro, you are going to get listed in the "Sub-Saharan African" category and hence in the non-white category. Otherwise latrino George Lopez (a proud and great White Hispanic by Jack Ryan standards) wouldn't have racial test results for his guests.
Of course aside from these obvious fact, it does not want to go beyond and make a differentiations between " fellow caucasoids" simply because it would make a distinction between jews/meds and Northwestern Europeans and such distinctions goes against the anti-White establishement were jews may be jews but they are "as white and europeans as anybody else, because Judaism is only a religion" or so they like to claim in public (in private it is another matter). Pretending to be White is also a jewish trademark, not just a Southern European one.
Well where? Go the rounds with "Trucker Roy" on stormfront? Alex Linder, the revulsion there would be mutual. Steve Sailer's more interested in winning elections for republicans; Mangan, his retirement account. Hunted Walrus won't have me. I don't write well (or often) enough to attract interest to my own blog.
Well, you didn't do yourself any favors by deleting your blog archives back then.
I think the main reason you stick around here is that the "Open Thread" style of discussion suits you. Not many blogs have them.
The division between "white Caucasoids" and "non-white Caucasoids" is not a fundamental one. It was (ultimately) created by Muhammad, in relatively recent historical times.
If there was no Islam, there would be no "non-white Caucasoids".
"fellow caucasoids" simply because it would make a distinction between jews/meds and Northwestern Europeans and such distinctions goes against the anti-White establishement were jews may be jews but they are "as white and europeans as anybody else, because Judaism is only a religion" or so they like to claim in public (in private it is another matter). Pretending to be White is also a jewish trademark, not just a Southern European one."
-----> No you idiot, i'm not trying to racially stratify Greece from the people who live a little more than 100 miles across the Aegean sea, aka the 'Turks' and lump them into a race category with Englishmen and Finns. YOU ARE. You're saying Greeks should be placed in a mythical 'white' category with Northern Europeans, or at least one point in time should have been, and Anatolians in mythical 'non white' "Afro-Asiatic" (even though Anatolians were originally Indo-European speakers before they were Turkified in the Middle ages by Central Asia Turks.) category. They are not Afro-Asiatic.
Science does not identity 'white' and 'non white' caucasoids. It's an arbitrary concept on who is 'white'. Nor am I trying to deny the North-South genetic differences in Europe, in Europe the largest genetic differences are between the North and South. And Southern Europeans, especially SouthEast Europeans ARE biologically closer to Ashkenazi Jews, Aremenians, and Turks, than they are to Northern Europeans.
Greeks are closer to their geographical neighbors be it Asia or Europe, than they are to the most distant people in Europe.
It has nothing to do with historical empires like Ottoman Turks coming into Greece....who based on Central Asian admixture in contemporaneity Turks had very little genetic impact on Greeks (because contemporary Greeks don't have this Central Asia component in them), and even if they DID, it would not have changed the Greeks much in the first place, because Turks are the geographical neighbors of the Greeks, in the same way Germans are to Lithuanians.
Get it? LOL, you're a buffoon.
So If Greeks are 'not white", so called "Western civilization" is a creation of non whites. : )
"Why are you expending so much energy on posting on this cesspit of a blog?"
Silver: I don't write well (or often) enough to attract interest to my own blog.
You could have saved yourself a lot of time and just typed that.
Whatever non-Nordish and non-White trolls want to whine and cry about here, they're HERE, and they don't seem capable of going away. There must be a reason. It's an interesting blog and despite what pan-Aryanists say Nordicism is inherent to racialism and it has value.
Nordicism, Pan-Aryanism, White Nationalism, etc, are fantasy ideaologies and have no bearing on physical realities, or the biological history of Europe and other places.
Southern European white Nationalists, especially are clowns.
From a genetic standpoint, Greeks and Italians should allie themselves with Ashkenazi Jews or Turks before they do with Northern Europeans.
I see no reason why not, since Jews run circles around Nords and completely dominate them anyways, and are obviously more intelligent.
Cyd's pomposity and hypocrisy know no bounds. He constantly berates commenters on being anonymous while he is anonymous himself and then tries to tell us and the blog owner how this blog should be run when he's not even Nordish, maybe not even White.
Cyd have you ever been committed to a mental health institution? You're overdue for a psychological checkup.
Nordicism, Pan-Aryanism, White Nationalism, etc, are fantasy ideaologies and have no bearing on physical realities, or the biological history of Europe and other places.
So the history of North American colonization, African slavery, racial segregation, anti-miscegenation laws, apartheid, physical/racial anthropology, the Civil War, NS Germany and WWII were all fantasies?
Southern European white Nationalists, especially are clowns.
I agree with you there.
From a genetic standpoint, Greeks and Italians should allie themselves with Ashkenazi Jews or Turks before they do with Northern Europeans.
Jews as a group are incapable of allying with anyone else besides Jews, if they were they would have already done so during their long history in Europe.
Anonymous mudman of post #85 proves that the medish subnigger is a tool of the joo. Straight from the horse´s mouth. THE NORDIC RACE EATS CHEESE ON THE HEAD OF THE JEWS! YOU WILL ALL BOW DOWN TO US!
Post #84, sorry
So If Greeks are 'not white", so called "Western civilization" is a creation of non whites.
This argument was used by the Jewish troll The Undiscovered Jew. Since Jews cluster with Southern Europeans, to not accept them is to not accept Greeks, the founders of Western civilization. LOL!
You're missing one crucial point, ancient Greeks vs modern Greeks. Certainly you don't expect America and Europe to be racially the same in 1000 years if our present course continues.
"ancient Greeks vs modern Greeks. Certainly you don't expect America and Europe to be racially the same in 1000 years if our present course continues."
----> I don't see ancient Greeks holding up Obama Posters or having Civil rights marches or bra burning blondes with Negro boyfriends. To compare Greece with modern America is silly. Why don't we compare Greece with modern China instead.
As for contemporary Greeks, they are close enough. And from a physical or racial standpoint, modern Turks or Jews are closer to Ancient Greeks than Northern Europeans are. Although you're welcome to prove otherwise. :)
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ABSTRACT
"A comparative cephalometric investigation was conducted between modern and ancient Greeks to determine craniofacial characteristics and to examine the significance of ethnic heritage. The modern sample was composed of 54 individuals chosen on the basis of ethnic background, normal occlusion and facial harmony. The ancient sample consisted of 40 skulls with normal occlusion dated back to the Minoan civilization (ca. 1,800-1,200 B.C.). A remarkable similarity in craniofacial morphology was revealed between the two groups, suggesting a close genetic affinity between modern and ancient Greeks. The ability of the craniofacial complex to make compensatory or balancing changes was noted. The craniofacial complex was seen to function as an integrated biological entity. Moreover, the cranial base showed a definite influence on skeletal profile configuration. These results provide a more comprehensive understanding of how craniofacial variables interact and contribute to the morphology of the dentofacial skeleton."
SOURCE : Argyropoulos et all. A comparative cephalometric investigation of the Greek craniofacial pattern through 4,000 years.Orthodontic Department, University of Pittsburgh School of Dental Medicine, PA 15261. Angle Orthod. 1989 Fall;59(3):195-204.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2672905
"Anonymous said...
So If Greeks are 'not white", so called "Western civilization" is a creation of non whites. : )"
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Modern Greeks became non-whites by race mixing, simply just like Modern Iranians and Mordern Indians who mixed with Weddids (Negritos) as well as some other non-whites and became non-whites themselves as a result. Ancient Persians, Ancient Indians and Ancient Greeks were White and this is why before their mongrelisation they built something of significance, but after their mongrelisation they fell backward and have been since stuck in a state of stagnation, wheras the non-mixed Caucasoid Whites continued on bringing forth evolution to their societies.
Here some read for your feeble minded mongrels about what transpired in the land of Greece and how they became the way they are now:
"As the Greek cities increased in wealth, the number of immigrants became very large, and the number of slaves enormous. " With the industrial growth of the commonwealth, the resident aliens, or, as they were termed, metoeci, grew in number and consideration. They were more numerous in Athens than in any other state"(McCullagh).
When the Macedonians became rulers of Greece, Athens had twenty-one thousand citizens, ten thousand
resident aliens, and four hundred thousand slaves. The change that the population underwent is evident from the following : In the battle of Platea, Sparta had
fifty thousand combatants, among them five thousand Spartan citizens. In the battle of Leuctra, Sparta could place in the field only one thousand citizens.
Sparta had to fight her battles with freed helots. In 370 B. c. Sparta had to liberate six thousand helots in order to be able to defend herself. In 270 B. c. only seven hundred Spartan families were counted in Sparta,
one hundred of which owned land; the others were ruined.
A new citizenship was formed by creating Perioecs resident aliens, and helots Spartan citizens. At Sellasia these new citizens were destroyed by Antigonas and the Achteans. Two hundred men only escaped. Mechanidas and Nabis created new citizens by again
elevating Perioecs, helots, and resident aliens to that rank. The resident aliens were mainly Aryan-Hamitic-Semitic-Egyptian-Negroid mongrels. The rulers of the Greek cities could give to these men the rights of citizens; they could not give to them the Greek race, not the character, the genius of that race. Gradually the Greeks of the Greek cities were replaced by
the Greek-speaking mongrels. The number of foreigners that had drifted into Greece before the time of Pericles, increased by the very great number that came during
the time of Pericles, was greater than could be absorbed. Mongrelization was inevitable.
The vitiation of the Hellenic blood caused the rapid decline of the Greek cities. There was but one part of Greece that was still Greek, Macedonia. For Macedonia
it would still have been possible to re-Hellenize Greece.
(To be continued)
(PART 2)
Alexander was not content with ruling Greece; his aim was the conquest of the Eastern world, and he succeeded. If Darius could have placed Medes and Persians in the field against Alexander, history would have a different story to tell; but the mongrel herd at
the command of Darius was no match for Alexander's Macedonians. Alexander planned to fuse the Greeks and the people of Asia Minor by intermarriage, and
founded many cities in Asia Minor and settled Greek colonists there. In short, he did everything to mongrelize the Greek race. We are told that, as the consequence of Alexander s conquest, the East became Hellenized. The truth is that a Hellenic varnish was given to the East, and that Hellas became Asianized, the Greek race thoroughly mongrelized and completely destroyed. The mongrelization of Hellas put an end to the true Hellenic spirit, to its productive genius, its
literary and artistic abilities.
It is true that the same kind of civilization prevailed in Asia Minor, Egypt, Greece, and the Greek communities; that Greek had become the world language, and was spoken in the lands stretching from the Indus to the Pillars of Hercules. It is not less true, however, that that vast herd of men speaking Greek was not able to produce anything at all comparable to the works produced by the Greeks, by the Egyptians, or by the Persians. The whole was smaller than any of its parts
had been. The Greek-speaking mongrel said very little that was worth reiterating, nothing that was comparable to the utterances of the Greek genius.
In the course of time the Hellenic blood was corrupted to a still greater extent. In 146 B. c. the Romans conquered Greece, and many Greeks perished in the war. When Mummius took Corinth, he ordered the city sacked and burned to the ground. All the men were killed, the women and children sold into slavery. Later the Goths invaded Greece. In 434 Attila became
the leader of the Huns. Under him they made savage incursions into Greece, laid waste the land, and expelled or exterminated the inhabitants. After his death, some
of the old inhabitants returned, and with them came Herulians, Gepidse, and Sarmatic Slavs into the devastated land. In the North Huns and Alanes remained. In the civil war between Zeno and Basilicus both called the Ostro-Goths for help. These came and brought new settlers with them. Most of these, however, a few years later, went to Italy.
Shortly after their departure, the Bulgarians, with Huns and Slavs, invaded the country, laid waste Thrace, and exterminated most of the inhabitants before they retired. In these invasions the inhabitants who still had some Hellenic blood in their veins were exterminated. Justinus I settled many Illyrians in Greece. In his
reign the invasions of the Slavosinians commenced. In the year 539 Greece was again invaded by Huns, Bulgarians, Slavs, Antes, and Gepidae. This time the defence of Thermopylae was inadequate to protect the country. Thebes, Athens, and Corinth alone resisted. The land between Thermopylae and the Gulf of Corinth was changed into a desert. Procopius states that in his time the Slavs had extended their dominions to the boundaries of Hellas. Diocletianopolis had, in an attack by the Slavs, lost all its inhabitants and was in ruins.
Men and the elements seem to have conspired to wipe cut every trace of Hellenic blood that still existed. In 531 the plague visited Greece, and its ravages lasted fifty years. At the same time, earthquakes devastated Greece; many cities were destroyed and buried. In Petras alone, four thousand inhabitants were killed by falling houses. Procopius states that, during the reign of Justinian, wars, famines, earthquakes, and the plague killed one hundred million people in the
countries of the Mediterranean basin.
(To be continued.)
(PART 3)
About this time the Avares came from Asia to Europe. Bajan-Chan, their leader, incited the Slavs to invade Greece in 578. They crossed the Danube, a hundred thousand men strong, invaded Greece, and extended their incursions as far as the Peloponnesus. Menander states that Hellas was torn to pieces by the Slavs. A few years later Bajan-Chan was at war with the emperor, and at his instigation other hordes of Slavs with Avares poured into Greece. Evagrius writes that in 587 and in 593 the Avares conquered all of Greece and devastated it with fire and sword. After these invasions the Slavs and Avares did not again leave Greece. They remained as the lords of the land, with them Huns and Bulgarians.
When peaceful conditions were again established, a great number of the inhabitants were Slavs, who retained their customs, religion, and language for a long time.
Cities, villages, brooks, mountains now have Slavic names. Marathon is Vrana; Salamis, Kiluri; Plataea, Kochla; Olympia, Miraka; Delphi, Kastri; and other places are named Goritza, Vostiza, Caminitza, Pirnatsha, Chlumutzi, Slavitza. Names similar to these are found in Galicia, Poland, and other Slavic countries. Hellenic they are not. During the reign of Empress Irene, Greece became again a part of the Byzantine empire,
and the Greek language was gradually adopted by the inhabitants of Greece. As far as language was concerned, Greece was again Hellenized. This was not brought about, however, by Hellenes, but by the Greek-speaking tri-continental mongrel of Constantinople.
In 1204 Venice, having a German-Frankish army at her command, declared war on the Eastern empire and took Constantinople. A Frankish army was landed at Patras (Morea), and many of the knights received latifundia in the Peloponnesus and subsequently re
mained in Greece. In the fourteenth century the Albanians invaded Greece, and settled there. The influx of Albanians continued for a considerable time. In 1407, we are told, Theodor Paleologus settled ten thousand Albanians, with their wives and children, in the Peloponnesus. Mazari, writing in 1446, states that the Greeks of his time were not a race, but a mixture of the debris of other races. He mentions Tshacones, Italians, Peloponnesians, Slavonians, Illyrians, Egyptians, and Jews. Not even the Jews escaped Mongrelization; many of them intermarried with the in
habitants and became as corrupt as they were.
" These nations of different descent have crossed to the extent that in baseness and wickedness they have become a homogeneous mass. They enjoy quarrel, strife, riot, and the shedding of blood; they are mendacious, cunning, and deceitful; they are as stupid as they are proud, perjured, and faithless, without morals
and without virtue " (Mazari).
The Italoi of Mazari are the descendants of the people who immigrated during the feudal rule, most of them from Naples, Sicily, and Spain; that is, from the most
mongrelized parts of Europe. Later, Arabic blood was infused into the mongrel mass.
Sultan Mohammed II settled Turks in the Peloponnesus. In the seventeenth century Venice succeeded in freeing the Peloponnesus from the Turkish rule. According to the Venetian officials, the character of the inhabitants was very bad. They found the character of the inhabitants to be as Mazari had found them two centuries before. When the Turks began the reconquest of Greece, the " Greeks " betrayed the Christians with
the same stolidity as the Turks. Later, Wallachians settled in Greece.
(To be continued.)
(PART 4)
From the foregoing it is evident that but very little Hellenic blood is left in Greece, and that little is so thoroughly vitiated that its disappearance is but a
question of time. No race inhabits Greece. The " Greeks " are the descendants of races so different that their crossing can never produce anything else than human mongrels. Their ancestors were Greeks, Hellenized Asiatics and Byzantine Greeks (i. e. Hamitic-Semitic-Greek-Egyptian-Negroid mongrels), Slavs, Sicilians, Spaniards, Huns, Bulgarians, Walloons, Franks, and Albanians. The blood of these races could have no other effect than that of increasing the race confusion.
The only difference between the modern Greeks and the other Balcanaks lies in the fact that the environment of the modern Greeks is the environment of the Hellenes. The environment,however, has no power whatsoever to change the mongrel into a race, and the Greeks have not been changed by it. We are told that the Hellenes owed their greatness largely to the country it was their fortune to dwell in. To that same country, with the same wonderful coastline and harbours, mountains and brooks, and the same sun of Homer, the modern Greeks probably owe their nothingness.
In the war for independence the effective work was done by the people of Suli, Hydra, and Poros, that is, by people of pure Albanian blood. Foreigners incited the revolution, not Greek love for freedom and independence. The Greeks, as the other Balcanaks, have not yet proved that they deserve a nationalindependentlife; intellectually, mentally, they are dead. After the Batavian revolution, after the American revolution, the people of these countries proceeded on the path of progress. Greece is, after many years of independence, miserable and degraded. The methods of cultivating the soil are primitive. Fields are cropped till they are exhausted and then left fallow. The farmers have no idea of manure. Their houses are sheds of wood or huts of mud, without windows.
Modern Greece produces bankers, brokers, politicians, liars in abundance, but has not produced a single great man. Not a single Greek name can be mentioned that surpasses mediocrity ; hardly one that approaches mediocrity. It is blood that tells.
Ribot says : From the Greeks the Byzantine derived, besides language and literary traditions, a subtlety which, for want of mental force to strengthen it, degenerated into low cunning. The love of the Greek for rhetoric and brilliant conversation became the braggart self-assertion of the Byzantine, the subtle sophistry of the philosophers degenerated into the empty scholasticism of the theologians, and the versatility of the Grseculus into the perfidious diplomacy of the emperors.
(To be continued.)
(PART 5)
" Historians usually explain the decline of nations by their manners, institutions, and character, and in a certain sense the explanation is correct. These reasons, however, are rather vague, and, as we see, there exists a more profound, an ultimate cause, an organic cause, which can act only through heredity, but which is altogether overlooked. These organic causes will probably be ignored for some time to come, but our ignoring them will not do away with them. As for ourselves, who have for purposes of our own attempted to study the decay of the lower empire, the most amazing instance of decay presented by history, tracing step by step this degeneration through a thousand years, seeing in their works of art the plastic talents of the Greeks fade away by degrees, and result in the stiff drawings of the Paleologi; seeing the imagination of the Greeks wither up and become reduced to a few platitudes of description; seeing their lively wit change to empty babbling; seeing all the characters of mind so disappear that the great men of their latter period would elsewhere pass only for mediocrities, ... it appears to us that beneath these visible, palpable facts, the only facts on which historians dwell, we discern the slow, blind, unconscious working of nature in the millions of human beings who were decayed, though they knew it not, and who transmitted to their descend ants a germ of death, each generation adding to it somewhat of its own.
" Thus in every people, whether it be rising or falling, there exists always as the groundwork of every change a secret working of the mind and consequently of a part of the organism, and this of necessity comes under the law of heredity."
Gibbon writes: " I should have abandoned without regret the Greek slaves and their servile historians, had I not reflected that the fate of the Byzantine monarchy is passively connected with the most splendid and important revolutions which changed the state of the world."
Jacob P. Fallmerayer closes his history of Morea with these words: " After studying the history of mediaeval Greece, is there any one still willing to maintain that the character of the Greeks declined and degenerated to the present level during the Turkish administration? Is there any form of villainy and baseness of which the Greeks were not past-masters before the time of the Turks? Has anywhere an administration been more corrupt, judiciary more venal, magistrates more thievish, archontes more contemptible, public and private morals more depraved, than in mediaeval Greece? In what way or manner could a Turkish government be worse? The Osmanli are better than their government; their morals are simple and severe, they hate lie, deceit, and thievishness; they are honest in their dealings; in short, superior to the Greeks in every respect."
There is no truth whatsoever in the statement that the Turks are responsible for the degeneration of the Balcanaks and of the Greeks. It is as false as the assertion that Catholicity caused the degeneration of Spain and of the South American countries. Promiscuous crossing, mongrelization, is the cause of their degeneration.
The mongrel is worthless everywhere, and the Greek mongrel is no exception." (Race or Mongrel, by Alfred P. Schultz)
Yum, delicious copypasta.
Rassenhygieniker
I provided a late 20th century, peer reviewed study, which measures cranio-facial patterns comparing contemporary and ancient Greeks. It is available still today in academic journals and in the database of the University of Pittsburgh.
You provided some 19th century author ranting about nonsense that provides no physical or scientific data at all.
So what am i going to believe? Ranting by some 19th century nitwit? or empirical data?
LOL, YOU FAIL.
The 19th century dude wrote that stuff before the jew communist scum took over academic research.
"The 19th century dude wrote that stuff before the jew communist scum took over academic research."
----> In other words you have no data for any of your worthless conjecture.
Thanks for playing.
Bring MODERN SCIENTIFIC DATA that has passed PEER REVIEW or stfu as far as i'm concerned. Opinions are irrelevant and worthless.
You want to prove contemporary Greeks (who as it is already been shown, have near exact cranio-facial patterns to ancient Greeks) are "Aryan-Hamitic-Semitic-Egyptian-Negroid mongrels" as that idiot wrote, then you're more than welcome to prove it.
Great scholars such as Arthur Kemp have proven in such authoritative works as March of the Titans that the Ancient Greeks were of fine Nordic stock while the modern greeks are greasy turkoid mongrels. Race mixing brought down the great White civilization of Greece. As our beloved Führer once said "When a superior race mixes with an inferior race the resulting race is inferior to the superior and superior to the inferior".
LOL. The US has a black president and millions of Mexican, African and other non-Caucasian immigrants coming here all the time. Europe has millions of Muslim and African immigrants too.
And there is another group you may have heard of that has very disproportionate influence in American politics and big business- it ain't Italians or Greeks.
So I really don't get RH's obsessive hostility to Mediterranean Europeans, who aren't exactly clamoring to get into "Nordic" countries.
Just seems odd to see someone in this day and age get so agitated against Southern Europeans.
Obama is half nordish, he is therefore WHITER than you´ll ever dream to be, tony.
This lemur has some good advice to RH, Cyd and all the "anonymous" morons on this blog.
http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/demotivational-posters-stop-talking.jpg
So does this guy (he's a little, only a little, smarter than RH and his "anonymous" friends)
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0902/intelligence-intelligence-moron-moran-demotivational-poster-1235531596.jpg
Rassenhygieniker's opinion seems philosophical and plausible enough. The fragments from the historian McCullagh are persuasive, still I suspect he has failed to account for the operation of climate on the inhabitants. During my 'Grand Tour' of the continent, the peasants of snowy, mountainous provinces as Arcadia and Epirus were clearly white. Not Norwegian certainly, but natural blondeness wasn't infrequent. The coasts and islands are another matter.
More interestingly, I would ask Rassenhygieniker for his judgment on the theory that the French Revolution exterminated the country's only pure 'Nordic' stratum when they killed the aristocrats wholesale. I've never approved of the liberalism which America's and France's revolutions started off, being a feudalist reactionary I understand that there is no unity in humankind, no equality between races or sexes, and that even amongst homogeneous peoples, say the Austrians, the aristocracy rule because they are literally the best.
"Obama is half nordish, he is therefore WHITER than you´ll ever dream to be, tony."
May I also ask the declared Nordicists here, how prevalent is the belief that even a Northern European/black African mulatto has a greater claim to 'whiteness' than a Southern European? To be frank, the US President (what a joke) is considerably darker and less European in his features compared to any Sicilian or Cretan I've met.
From what I've seen in the general community, a Northern European/Southern European hybrid is principally Southern-looking, not always, but 'white'. Every single European/Non-European mixture, be it with black, Asian or Near-Easterner, obliterates the lighter European features completely.
So I really don't get RH's obsessive hostility to Mediterranean Europeans, who aren't exactly clamoring to get into "Nordic" countries.
Ah! But you have that wrong; check out the cantonal statistics of German Switzerland, which is seeing an exponential rise in Italian immigration. It's the end of the world if you ask me!
"Anonymous #1 said...
You provided some 19th century author ranting about nonsense that provides no physical or scientific data at all."
The book "Race or Mongrel" was written in the twentieth century (in 1977 to be exact), not in the ninetinth century. And he used historical accounts as a source for his writings.
As or the case of ancient greek Whites mixing with non-whites and unpure races that is what led to the creation of the modern greek non-whites, it is just like the Persians, who used in their army a majority of individuals who were not of Persian stock (which led to mongrelisation in the end).
Anyways, non-white and mixed race skulls from Greece:
Mongoloid female:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2180/r101r101.jpg
Negroid female:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4567/r102r102.jpg
Armenoid/Negroid (mongrel) female:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3179/r103r103.jpg
Anatolid/Negroid (mongrel) female:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2580/r104r104.jpg
For more information on one of the many reasons on how greeks turned from Nortwestern European Whites unto Northern African sandniggers, refer to this:
http://www.white-history.com/greece_negroes.htm
As for the ancient greeks being White, well based on the skeletal excavation they were not mediterraneans as they are today, Dienekes Pontikos even says it, if you mix all the races in the world unto one you get a mediterranean.
So, Ancient Greeks skeletal remains:
Female skeleton from a tomb in Nemea:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/490/r56r56.jpg
Skeleton of a Mycenaean from a tomb in Mycenae:
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1043/r57r57.jpg
Clearly both are not short skulled mediterraneans, but are of Northwestern Indo-European stock (tall and thin skulls).
Compare those with skulls from a Viking burial in Oxford, England:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1914/r58r58.jpg
"Anonymous #2 said...
Rassenhygieniker's opinion seems philosophical and plausible enough. The fragments from the historian McCullagh are persuasive, still I suspect he has failed to account for the operation of climate on the inhabitants."
I do not believe in such things as diet, climate or other things that influence phenotype. A mediterranean is not going to turn blond, grow taller and such if he lives in the Scandinavia mountains and eats fish everyday, the only way that is going to happen is through race mixing with Nordic poeople. The Afrikaners neither did not turn unto negroids even though they lived in South Africa for centuries.
Hans Günther even talks about this in his book about how there was an attempt to attribute phenotypical pattern on the environment and not on racial lineage.
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"Anonymous #2 said...
More interestingly, I would ask Rassenhygieniker for his judgment on the theory that the French Revolution exterminated the country's only pure 'Nordic' stratum when they killed the aristocrats wholesale."
No, there are pure Nordids left in France (especially in Northeastern France), but they are greatly outnumbered by the mediterraneans and other non-nordish races. The South of France (Occitania):
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7832/r105r105.gif
especially is even completly mediterranean. I have lived some time there and I only came across one person who was of Northwestern European stock.
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"Anonymous #2 said...
I've never approved of the liberalism which America's and France's revolutions started off, being a feudalist reactionary I understand that there is no unity in humankind, no equality between races or sexes, and that even amongst homogeneous peoples, say the Austrians, the aristocracy rule because they are literally the best."
Things such as arostocracy and nobility in non-Northwestern European countries were a way to keep the Nordish people away from the non-Nordish masses, we could see it in Iberia with the Northwestern European Blue Blood aristocracy (Blue Blood comes from the fact that they are pure caucasoids and as such their skin is translucid that you can see their veins beneath their skin.) We could see it in france also, were the Nordish aristocracy would marry other Northwestern Europeans but would not touch the non-Nordish masses.
But this quickly changed around the 17th century when kings such as Louis XIV became quite liberal in their standards for bestowing nobility on others. By the time his Louis XIV death the nobility wasn't quite all that Nordish looking anymore and shortly after his death in the same century, the Judeo-Meridionalist revolution took place and took away the reign of France from the hands of Northwestern Europeans to give it to the jews.
This is how it is, if you start trusting any other races than your own, you are dooming yourself and your fellow folk to extinction and selling your country to thieves, murderers and rapists.
When the Americans were racially aware and pushed the Mongoloid indians and other untermenschen away their country was great, when they started becoming liberal it was the beginning of the end for them.
"Rassenhygieniker's opinion seems philosophical and plausible enough. The fragments from the historian McCullagh are persuasive, still I suspect he has failed to account for the operation of climate on the inhabitants."
----> Without data he has nothing, today's Greeks are probably in fact 'whiter' than the ancients, as they have seen some Northern (Slavic) influxes over time. That's why the most isolated Island Greeks are often the darkest.
And Today's Greeks don't show any significant genetic influxes that came in historical times from Africa, Egypt, 'Semite' or Negroid lands.
It's not like today's Greeks are living in mud huts and naked, their nation is 1st world and ranked 25th on the HDI..higher than every Eastern European nation and blonde haired blue eyed Baltic nation. Today's Greece is much more technologically advanced then ancient Greece was, lol. I really dont' see what the big DEAL is with Ancient Greece.
You all have formed a delusional philosophy and historical perspective. I think it's funny how Nordicists realize their females (and even males) have a propensity to import and breed with 'brown and black hordes' and view the darker pigmentation in today's Southern Europeans as some sort of result of a mixing between a Nordic/Northern Europoid ancient Southern European population who craved colored genitalia. I guess according to you this stuff has been going on as long as time in your delusional minds, how sad and pathetic a thought. Nordics just can't keep their hands off of 'colored' genitalia, and today's Northern Europeans are just the last hold-outs, but as we can see they too are falling prey to the temptation...at a 50 fold greater rate than the already tainted and mix Mediterraneans are.
LOL, MARCH ON KEMPIANS, MARCH ON.
The book it seems was written in 1907, not 1977 you dishonest phony....much closer to the 19th Century than our century that's for sure. My source is scientific and has to do with physical anthropology..and is from 1989, it's a credible source found on PubMed, and in the archives of the University of Pittsburgh, and it also provides SCIENTIFIC DATA unlike your worthless 19th century crud.
I can find non credible books like yours that say the Vikings were Negroid Africans.
"Hans Günther even talks about this in his book"
----> Yeah, Hans Gunther is about your intellectual level, lol.
The edition I used was published in 1977, but upon looking the original first edition came out between 1907-1908, so beginning of the 20th century.
"1907-1908"
----> Yep, which predates late 20th century/21st century population genetics, bio anthropology, and physical anthropology.
So it's worthless.
May I also ask the declared Nordicists here, how prevalent is the belief that even a Northern European/black African mulatto has a greater claim to 'whiteness' than a Southern European? To be frank, the US President (what a joke) is considerably darker and less European in his features compared to any Sicilian or Cretan I've met.
You can't really be so stupid as to think a Nordicist wrote that comment? There isn't a Nordicist in the world who thinks mulattoes are whiter than southern Europeans. Read Richard McCulloch's article "Racial Average is Racial Destiny" and look at the scale of Northern European racial assimilability.
That comment was written by the same southern European who keeps littering this thread with what he absurdly thinks are clever attempts to "get" Nordicists.
You all have formed a delusional philosophy and historical perspective. I think it's funny how Nordicists realize their females (and even males) have a propensity to import and breed with 'brown and black hordes' and view the darker pigmentation in today's Southern Europeans as some sort of result of a mixing between a Nordic/Northern Europoid ancient Southern European population who craved colored genitalia. I guess according to you this stuff has been going on as long as time in your delusional minds, how sad and pathetic a thought. Nordics just can't keep their hands off of 'colored' genitalia, and today's Northern Europeans are just the last hold-outs, but as we can see they too are falling prey to the temptation...at a 50 fold greater rate than the already tainted and mix Mediterraneans are.
LOL, MARCH ON KEMPIANS, MARCH ON.
Your desire to personalize things has blinded you from seeing the real issue. The existence of a multiracial society is the cause of miscegenation. The weaknesses of individuals are not the issue. When different racial groups occupy the same territory, racial intermixture and destruction are inevitable. Individual propensity or aversion to miscegenation only affects the rate of such destruction. Regardless of individual susceptibility or resistance to miscegenation, in the long run racial destruction is inevitable in a multiracial society. Read the article "Angels Forever" in the August 1991 issue of Instauration to improve your understanding.
Please repost your question with an appropriate id. As you may have guessed, I do not like the spinelessness that fills these boards with posters remaining "anonymous". I will answer your question at that point.
As anyone could have predicted, Cyd evaded the question because he's too cowardly to answer it.
Who would have thought such a swaggering blowhard would crumple in fear of answering a simple yes/no question?
Cyd's objection to anonymity is quite selective. He is just as anonymous as everyone else, on this thread he's posting as both "Cyd" and "Anonymous," and he has no principled objection to replying to anonymous comments. It's only when he's too gutless to answer a challenge that he makes up a pathetic excuse to evade the question.
Britain has the highest inter racial marriage statistics on the planet
Prove it. Enough with the evidence-free assertions.
Shouldn't we at least demand RassaNigger put up ONE comment absent of gross errors, baseless claims, unfounded biases, and innuendo before he, like Appollonian, completely ruins this blog?
If there were ever a textbook example of projection, this is it.
As we write these words here today, think of all the beautiful nordish women who at this very moment are being fucked up the ass by medish subniggers in the Mediterranean and by bluegum Tarzans in Jamaica! We need to stand up and kick some ass on the internet to show the world that the White man is ready to rumble! Like the great Hal Turner would say, these meds are worthy of being lined up against a wall by a group of proud nords inspired by this board, AND MACHINE GUNNED TO DEATH!
Sir, did you comprehend what I said about your understanding of the key issues being impaired by your desire to personalize things?
I respectfully submit that juvenile mockery debases efforts to seriously discuss and improve our understanding of these important issues.
Sir, I appeal, hopefully not in vain, to your higher nature, and I implore you to engage on a substantive level.
Stop using all them big words to look smart. You starting to sound like a pencil neck joo! I bet you aint nothing but a communist joo spy sent down by the SPLC to this here blog to sabotage the Nordic Man´s self-agrandizing circle jerk!
Sir, why do you willfully refuse to engage in serious and substantive discussion?
You wanna know why? Its because everywhere I go I see our Blond Nordish women getting banged by hooknose jews, al capone sicilians and other subniggers! Do you think you can kick subnigger ass with them big yankee words. I say HELL NO! medish niggers: Come down to where I live and I´ll smash in your head with a two by four! That´s the only way we can keep them greasy dagoes from stealing our pussy! Another way is to kick wog ass on the internet all day long! As long as I´m here the medish mudmen will never take away my Great Nordish Heritage and most important of all my pussy!
Cyd, what do you think you're accomplishing here?
"cyd" wouldn't happen to be "kubilai," would he?
A STUDY OF AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE
By Carl C. Brigham, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Psychology in Princeton University.
Oxford University Press, 1923.
"Our study of the army tests of foreign born individuals has pointed at every step to the conclusion that the average intelligence of our immigrants is declining. This deterioration in the intellectual level of immigrants has been found to be due to two causes. The migrations of the Alpine and Mediterranean races have increased to such an extent in the last thirty or forty years that this blood now constitutes 70% or 75% of the total immigration. The representatives of the Alpine and Mediterranean races in our immigration are intellectually inferior to the representatives of the Nordic race which formerly made up about 50% of our immigration. In addition, we find that we are
getting progressively lower and lower types from each nativity group or race.
It is also possible to make a picture of the elements now entering into American intelligence. At one extreme we have the distribution of the Nordic race group. At the other extreme we have the American negro. Between the Nordic and the negro, but closer to the negro than to the Nordic, we find the Alpine and Mediterranean types.
Throughout this study all measurements have been made in terms of averages and variability about the average. In interpreting averages, we must never forget that they stand for an entire distribution. Careless thinkers are prone to select one or two striking examples of ability from a particular group, and then rest confidently in the belief that they have overthrown an argument based on the total distribution of ability. The Fourth of July orator can convincingly raise the popular belief in the intellectual level of Poland by shouting the name of Kosciusko from a high platform, but he can not alter the distribution of the intelligence of the Polish immigrant. All countries send men of exceptional ability to America, but the point is that some
send fewer than others.
Our distribution curve of intelligence includes ability as well as defect. The English speaking Nordic group, for instance, averages 13.84, and furnishes at one extreme about 40 men in 1000 who are above the average white officer, while at the other extreme, the group furnishes about 8 in 1000 who are below an estimated "mental age" of eight. A distribution further down the scale contributes more to the lower orders of intelligence. The distribution of the intelligence scores of the negro draft, for instance, indicates that they contribute only 4 in 1000 above the average white
officer, while they give us 100 in 1000 below the approximate "mental age" of eight. The Alpine and Mediterranean races give us only 5 or 10 in 1000 above the average ability of the white officer, and about 40 in 1000 below the "mental age" of eight. About 350 in 1000 of the Alpine and Mediterranean types are below the average negro."
As anyone could have predicted, Cyd evaded the question because he's too cowardly to answer it.
Is it beyond your reading comprehension to understand my request of you picking an id and I will then answer your question? It appears so, Miggles. You can fuck off with your "demands" unless you grow a pair and ask with an id attached. But what should one expect from a person who deleted everything he could at OD?
Cyd's objection to anonymity is quite selective. He is just as anonymous as everyone else, on this thread he's posting as both "Cyd" and "Anonymous," and he has no principled objection to replying to anonymous comments.
Wrong asswipe. If I wanted to comment, it has been under Cyd here. Prior to this, I never denied being "cyd". You? You are a pathetic fag. Now go hide behind anonymity.
Well, it looks like n/a has decided that he is going to delete my comments and therefore I will not be commenting any further. My apologies to him, only. To the rest, you know what you can do and where to go.
An important last point (for me) is the allegation I have posted under "anonymous" on this thread. I have not.
I haven't deleted any comments here. Google has instituted a very poor automatic spam filter that moves comments to a spam queue seemingly at random. More generally, while I would prefer to see constructive discussion, the only comments I have deleted in the history of this blog have been commercial spam and comments containing Reginald's personal information.
O fearless one, you're still avoiding the question.
I never denied
LOL. Talk about weasel words.
Now go hide behind anonymity.
LOL. As if you aren't anonymous.
A meaningless three-letter handle doesn't make you any less anonymous. Post under your real name if you want to bitch about anonymity.
It's not like today's Greeks are living in mud huts and naked, their nation is 1st world and ranked 25th on the HDI..higher than every Eastern European nation and blonde haired blue eyed Baltic nation. Today's Greece is much more technologically advanced then ancient Greece was, lol.
Also bucking expectations are post-communist countries like "semi-mixed" Romania and Bulgaria, both carrying large minorities of gypsies, who after recovering from the post-transition crash (as in Russia, GDP sunk some 50%) and are in far better shape than All White Ukraine.
Greece, of course, only kicked into high gear in the 90s. For me this results from a cultural shift in focus from traditions -- Greece has long been psychotically nationalistic -- to material, financial concerns.
As for ancient Greece, please, there is plenty there to be in awe of. That the average Greek citizen today is vastly better off has more to do with the concern the modern "commie-liberal" mind has with ensuring a diffusion of resources and rights than with the intellectual or technological heights the modern state scales.
Anyway, this is all off-topic. Topic is that people prefer people more like themselves rather than less like themselves, and when all is said and done, when all the standard liberal objections are acknowledged, when all the complexities that would arise are given their due consideration, the only question worth discussing is how to go about reorganizing society along those lines and how to bring those not on board with doing so on board with doing so.
Anyway, this is all off-topic. Topic is that people prefer people more like themselves rather than less like themselves
The more crucial point is that people want to see their homelands preserved. Our very racial and cultural survival are at stake. Too many people don't take the threat of extinction seriously because they don't seem capable of looking beyond their own selfish experience.
MENTAL DIFFERENCES IN CERTAIN IMMIGRANT GROUPS
By Kimball Young, president of the American Sociological Association in 1945, professor and psychologist at the University of Oregon, member of the faculty of Clark University, member of the faculty of the University of Wisconsin–Madison, chairman of the Department of Sociology at Queens College and Northwestern University.
University of Oregon Press, 1922.
"Italian immigration of the last twenty years (from 1900 to 1920) is from South Italy and Sicily. Its source is the lowest economic classes and in origin these people are largely Mediterranean with a noticeable negroid strain and other exotic mixtures. In the nature of their racial extraction we have a clue to their mental status. These anthropological facts furnish us with one probable cause of the marked differences between the children of these immigrants and those whose parents are of North European ancestry. The South Europeans have considerable negroid strains in the masses of the people and this fact may, in part, account for the divergence from the intelligence of the North Europeans' descendents."
NATIONAL IDENTITY, NATIONHOOD,
AND IMMIGRATION IN ARGENTINA: 1810-1930
By Jeane DeLaney
"Quite simply, the Generation of 1837 saw European immigration as the cornerstone upon which the new Argentina would be built. Like Rivadavia before them, these intellectuals viewed Northern European immigration as the remedy for Argentina’s economic and political ills. Accordingly, Alberdi believed, the government should encourage the immigration of Anglo-Saxons in order to "fit the population to the political system we have proclaimed." Anglo-Saxons, he proclaimed, "are identified with the steamship, with commerce, and with liberty, and it will be impossible to establish these things among us without the active cooperation of that progressive and cultivated race." Spanish immigrants, in contrast, were unwelcome and would only compound Argentina’s difficulties."
BETWEEN ARGENTINES AND ARABS
By Christina Civantos
"These men specifically indicated that the immigrants whom they wanted were Northern Europeans; although they themselves were of Spanish descent they considered the Iberians to be of inferior stock. Ironically, the bulk of those who actually emigrated to Argentina as a of this project were Spaniards, Southern Italians, and, as the third or fourth largest group, Syro-Lebanese."
"Silver said...
Topic is that people prefer people more like themselves rather than less like themselves"
This only true when talking about two different, who while they are different are nonetheless but superior groups.
This is however untrue when talking about two distinct and alien groups one group which is superior (Northwestern Europeans for example) and one group which is inferior (Southern Europeans for example), in this case the elements belonging to the inherently inferior group would seek to make their own shelves (and as a natural extension their group as well) closer to the superior (as in less inferior, or at least not as inherently so) by seeking to mingle with the elements belonging to the inherently superior group.
Forgot to add, this is exemplified, by the Argentinian's Southern Europeans who wanted Northern Europeans as immigration stock and did not want Southern Europeans sandniggers immigrants.
This behaviour is not just a notable traits that is to be found amongst Southern Europeans, but also notable amongst other subhumans such as kikes, niggers and Afro-Asiatics/Altaics.
The more crucial point is that people want to see their homelands preserved. Our very racial and cultural survival are at stake. Too many people don't take the threat of extinction seriously because they don't seem capable of looking beyond their own selfish experience.
Yes, that's true but as you seem aware it's not enough to just state it as such. People need a reason they can grasp that overrides or slips past the leftwing programming.
Talking about that, just look how many goddam execrable leftwing scum you keep producing. Isn't it just extraordinary? Take the most braindead, imbecilic, nation-wrecking scum your mind can conjure and then double and triple it before you can properly describe the verminous leftwing filth who are busy destroying everything worth living for. There's no question they deserve to be shot (whether they eventually are or not, they bloody deserve it, wholeheartedly). No question at all. That's something I wouldn't even come close to saying about anyone on a racial basis. But by God these fucking execrable leftwing cunts, it's almost unbelievable such turds can exist.
As you well know, I hate the nazi because he'll hate you and war on you and kill just for the sake of your alleged (and within the limits of his mental framework, justifiably alleged) inferiority. I don't believe it needs to come to that but to hell with it, but there's a risk that it could and fuck it it's a risk worth running.
This is however untrue when talking about two distinct and alien groups one group which is superior (Northwestern Europeans for example) and one group which is inferior (Southern Europeans for example), in this case the elements belonging to the inherently inferior group would seek to make their own shelves (and as a natural extension their group as well) closer to the superior (as in less inferior, or at least not as inherently so) by seeking to mingle with the elements belonging to the inherently superior group.
No, that doesn't seem true at all. That's the kind of thing you'll tell yourself when you're devoted mind, body and soul to race, race, race. Of course your focus will then train in on a few instances of this "racial climbing" which your mind will elevate to a general rule. But it's not a rule at all. How fucking dumb can you be? Immigrants tend to love the spoils but hate the people. That's the general rule. The vast majority of them spend their lives around others like themselves and prefer it that way despite the overtures of loopy liberal fuckwits who decide that well, geez, since these people are here we ought to like "get to know them."
Fundamentally, what you don't appreciate is that there's a "paper case" for superiority/inferiority or hierarchies etc. And then there's what people feel, which typically results from what they observe. The latter is vastly more important. The average "sand nigger," say, looking about doesn't see much superiority to be awed by. He might have noticed that his kind tend towards criminality, hostility and non-educability, but it's not something that's of earth-shattering importance to him. The fact is the average person of any race is, what? He's average. So it's hardly any surprise he's not going to inspire much awe.
rassen, you're so hung up on "superiority" you can't see the forest for the trees. It's no big deal to me that you feel the way you do. In fact, it's obviously quite useful to feel the way you do if you're devoted to the task the lies ahead. But if you're going to insist that any who understand race must feel the way you do -- and I'm talking about your own kind here, although it applies to all others too -- you're going to continue to get static because there's just nothing inherent about race that causes one to feel that way. You might say, but how, silver, how is it possible? LOOK at these motherfuckers. LOOK AT THEM. And if that's not enough what if I explain to them IQ, heredity etc etc SURELY NOW they'll agree etc. Again, wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. There's nothing inherent about race that requires one to feel revulsion. Nothing at all. Obviously people can feel it, and at times have felt it, but the fact is it can be surmounted -- and not just in "saying it" but in actually feeling it, just as strongly as you do revulsion -- and historically has been. In fact, I would argue that a significant part of the enthusiasm about "diversity" results from having surmounted one's own racial feelings -- they've pulled it off and now they want everyone else to join in.
My point is this: so what if those feelings can be surmounted? People are still better off with people of racial similarity and similar cultural backgrounds. It's just such an all around better way of life -- more trust, more cooperation, less conflict etc -- it's incredible to me anyone would turn down the opportunity if he were aware it was an opportunity, the hoopla about IQ schmIQ etc be damned.
Getting down to the nitty gritty, America's (and canada's and australia's) vastness is both the escape valve (so much open land, why fight when you can flee?) that racialists despair over and the golden opportunity to exploit other kinds' natural infeelings. Racial aikido. You recruit their help in getting what you want by granting them what they want. Much harder to argue with that than the standard nazi-ranter boilerplate. (Europe, that's another matter, although even there this strategy would see the foreigners contained in compact territorial units rather spread out and mixing away.)
Now, I know what you're thinking: you slimy cunts descend on my country like a plague of locusts, fleece it for all it's worth, and then present yourselves as some kind of saviors? To which I'll say, listen dickhead, the clock's ticking, do you see anything better on offer?
You can't really be so stupid as to think a Nordicist wrote that comment? There isn't a Nordicist in the world who thinks mulattoes are whiter than southern Europeans.
The only people who suggest that quadroons and quintroons are White or "look Italian" are pan-Aryanists. They have more to worry about from their own people than they do us.
Mmmm, Rassenhygieniker is serving up some delicious spam tonight. (/sarcasm)
Sorry Rassy, this Sicilian wog prefers real pasta to copypasta.
Southern Euro Meds are the descendants of the former slaves of the Nordic-ruled Roman Empire.
Their huge Med/Semitic noses betray them as the desert dwellers that they are.
What is a damn shame is how far and deep the Med/Semitic rot thrust in to fair Germania, to the southern portions (Germania Superior and Germania Inferior) where the Roman Empire extended along the Rhine: http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/2z82smc1.png
Many southern Germans and Austrians are, sadly, quite Med-ish due to the Roman incursion of Roman slaves in to Northern Europe. Due to the gradual influx of southern Germans in to northern Germany over the centuries many northern Germans are now part Med too.
The only way the Romans were able to take over that area was to wholesale deforest it in order to subdue the natives, to 'civilize' them. People must always realize that Meds/Semites cannot stand humidity, and they hate humid forests because they are at base nomadic and vampiric desert dwellers as evidenced by their huge desert noses which cannot tolerate any amount of humidity.
The original pure Meds, Semites, Jews, and other desert dwelling peoples may be, in fact, descended largely from an ancient alien race of 'lizard people' or 'reptilian humanoids' who came or were dumped on Earth from another planet because they had turned their previous planet entirely in to a desert and thus they had to colonize Earth for resources or to exploit the ape-human natives (think the desert plant Arrakis from the book DUNE).
So maybe the Meds are the real master race who built the pyramids and other major civilizations using the human ape-slaves in all of the desert areas of the Earth in which major civilizations have been founded all over the world...and the Northern Euros were just backwoods dwellers who best resisted the Med incursions.
Rassen:"The South Europeans have considerable negroid strains in the masses of the people and this fact may, in part, account for the divergence from the intelligence of the North Europeans' descendents."
If South Europeans have considerable negroid strains then why do so many of them have very large hooked and narrow desert noses adapted for extremely arid climates which is the exact opposite of the negroid jungle nose which is flat and broad and best adapted for very hot and humid equatorial jungle climates?
Anon:"It's not like today's Greeks are living in mud huts and naked, their nation is 1st world and ranked 25th on the HDI..higher than every Eastern European nation and blonde haired blue eyed Baltic nation."
Yes but Greece is essentially a parasitic nation in that they produce very little and live on credit and borrowed money as the recent financial crisis there shows.
Almost all of Greece's food is imported and their economy is based entirely on tourism, shipping (good produced by others), and a bit of agriculture (olives, wine, etc). Not even sure if they are water secure, and their birthrate is not at replacement level...if Greece was an island, could they be self-supporting? Not at all. Of course they same case could be made about other nations, but still...Greece is in pretty bad shape. And the country is mostly a desert.
So Greece and its people are in many respects parasitic; the nation is overpopulated and they depend entirely upon Northern European and American support (importation of food, manufactured goods, etc) to stay afloat as a people and nation.
Silver:"are in far better shape than All White Ukraine."
Not a good comparison...Ukraine has one of the highest non-White immigrant populations in the world, mostly Asiatics from former Soviet republics:
"Significant migration took place in the first years of Ukrainian independence. More than one million people moved into Ukraine in 1991–2, mostly from the other former Soviet republics. In total, between 1991 and 2004, 2.2 million immigrated to Ukraine (among them, 2 million came from the other former Soviet Union states), and 2.5 million emigrated from Ukraine (among them, 1.9 million moved to other former Soviet Union republics).
Currently, immigrants constitute an estimated 14.7 % of the total population, or 6.9 million people; this is the fourth largest figure in the world." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Migration
So basically the people of the Ukrainian nation which refused to submit to the communist tyranny or post-communist plutocracy was intentionally wiped out by an alien elite during the 20th Century. Ukraine was intentionally nation-wrecked by insanely murderous communist Jewry and their allies (almost the entire native Ukrainian independent peasant, middle, and upper class was murdered) and then economically raped by plutocratic hypercapitalist Jewry and their lackeys in the post-Soviet period - this is because Ukraine is a nation very rich in natural resources, most notably some of the most fertile farmland in the world for growing enough grain for the burgeoning masses of the current New World Order.
> Take the most braindead, imbecilic, nation-wrecking scum your mind can conjure and then double and triple it before you can properly describe the verminous leftwing filth who are busy destroying everything worth living for.
Now you're talkin, el greeco. Preach it. By the way, I admit your posts are pretty interesting.
By the way, personally I'm perfectly willing to pay significant taxes to help non-African foreigners in their own lands. Even 3 or 6% of GDP. As for Subsaharan Africa, it should simply be ruled by first-world foreigners if any be willing.
As for how to slip past the leftist indoctrination: shameless complaining, I tend to believe. Whining. Not about affirmative action, but about losing our own countries. What's fair for others is supposed to be not fair for us! No land in the world for us - everyone else has their own! This is playing the game the leftist way, but it is necessary at first. You just need to slip past the wall of 'racism intolerance blah blah'... and then unenlightened people will start to think, in both plaintive and non-plaintive terms, about the real value of Europa.
We cannot easily 'Christianize' the savage atomic-individualist Euromerican White, if you will, without speaking his barbarous tongue.
"Vikingism" you are a piece of shit! You are a no good sonofabitch, little gay, little fag, worse than Michael Jackson! I don´t like your attitude, saying Austrians and southern Germans, like mein great ReichsFührer Adolf Shicklgruber are part subnigger med! You are a punk, you are a fag and I never respect a gay, I never respect a fag! You lucky Hacksaw Jim Duggin come save you, punk! Before I make you humble, old country way!
Ukrainians are so poor they clean toilets and sell their pussy in Turkey.
vikingism's a troll.
Ukrainians are so poor they clean toilets and sell their pussy in Turkey.
You are a piece of fucking shit. Typical swarthoid behavior.
Americans are no longer credible when they preach about economics. They created this mess. Ukrainians lived 100 times better under the Soviet Union. Now they are prostitutes, fruit pickers and toilet cleaners in Turkey, Dubai and southern Europe. Why don´t you emigrate to the Ukraine?
"Yes but Greece is essentially a parasitic nation in that they produce very little and live on credit and borrowed money as the recent financial crisis there shows."
--> Greece has a per capita GDP of of 31,670 according to what Google says on the World Bank data. Besides, there's nothing wrong with making profit on Tourism.
That's like 8 times higher than the Ukraine and over 2 times higher than Lithuania. Is it on Western or NorthWestern Europe's level? No, it's still got a bit to go but they are doing just fine.
"could they be self-supporting? Not at all."
---> Dude this is the 21st century economy, and Greece is a small nation of barely 10 million people. What do you expect? An industrial juggernaut?
The fact is Greece has, pound for pound, higher GDP than any Slavic or Baltic country...and MUCH higher than many of them.
The Ukraine is a shithole, even Turkey is higher developed than it.
Understand this, I don't wish to prolong an already unwieldy and moribund debate, but the point that Greece, Southern Italy, Portugal, and Spain to a lesser extent are mixed should be uncontroversial to the readers here who presumably have shaken off the Boasian fraud of multi-racialism.
That does not imply necessarily that every single native inhabitant, or descendant, of those 'peoples' is mixed or so tainted by non-European blood to have no genetic worth whatsoever. Many Southerners clearly look non-European, and it isn't simply having a sun tan which fades when the UV index is below three. Having jet black hair and all-over-body swarthiness is a glaring sign of admixture, as Europe is the brown-to-blond-haired continent, and skin colour is plainly white at all times or when unexposed to the summer Mediterranean sun.
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No, Southern Italy is not "mixed", Most Southern Italians are like 98% Greco-Italian. There's no evidence for there being large admixture in Greeks in the past 5,000 years either, Greeks little bit of admixture actually comes from the North.from Slavs during the christian era.
Even the Sicilians are only about 6 percent paternally Moorish/North African/Saracen 'Arab'. So sure, if you want to consider people who are 96-97% Greco-Italian to be mixed, go ahead. That is the truth i suppose
And it's not like Northern Europeans don't have any admixture. Every once in a while Asian or Sub-Saharan Y chromomal marker will show up in some of them.
You're just a retard who is Northern European, realizes when he looks at Southern Europeans that they look different than Northern Europeans, and when he sees this he puts them into a 'suspect' or 'mixed' fantasy category. Since 'whiteness' is based on an arbitrary concept of that is inversely proportional to the distance from Northern Europeans.
Southern Europeans are not Northern Europeans, and are not supposed to look like them. 'Mixed' or Not. Go look at ancient Greek pottery, a ton of them have jet black hair.
Frank Boas or egalitarianism has nothing to do with the genetic history of Europe you idiot. What a clueless retard you are.
Go look at ancient Greek pottery, a ton of them have jet black hair.
Ancient Greece did have a large swarthoid population that comprised the slaves and lower orders. This segment was the basis of Ancient Greece's decline and degeneration as it increased to an overwhelming tide.
RobS, yes, I've long counseled (certainly long in terms of the internet era) that racialists need to be "fishers of men" (to stick with your Christian theme), and to stick to the minimum that will move a person to say, "Okay, I'm White and I care about it and I want a future for White people." As you've surely seen, however, what usually happens is that a person gets moved not to simply preferring his kind, and desiring racial community, but into hating the living fuck out of other races, at which point he loses all ability to communicate with his peers and goes off to sulk at VNN or something.
Doesn't matter to me what he thinks. Shouldn't matter to anyone, not if they really have a sense of group belonging. But what does matter is that this form of racialism causes the average person to feel justified in his basic antiracism -- even if he otherwise had something in the way of pro-self racial feelings, ie "if this is what it means to be a "racist" then I don't wanna be one."
The Instauration letter writers are instructive. All these geniuses no doubt thought they had something of immense importance to share with the world. But really, it was 25 years of wasted effort. Total misreading of their fellow men. Idiots. "The truth, the truth, we have the truth!" Sure, but then so do liberals, who understand that men incline to a natural desire to transcend tribe, always have, always will.
As I said to you, the truly game-changing realization is that if the trends continue, anyone with a group preference in the long run will lose. You, me, all of us. In some sense, to some degree, yeah, "We are all Americans! [or all whatever]" works. Like it or not, it does. But can it really compete with in-groupness? I doubt it. And most foreign stock groups know that damn well. So exploit it. I mean geezus fucking christ, if you're already resigned to giving up territory (territory that in large swaths of America has already been given up, more or less) then what the hell is stopping you besides foolish, foolish pride? (FWIW, in my "ideal vision" you wouldn't even have to "give it all up.")
"There's nothing inherent about race that requires one to feel revulsion."
Lies. God damn lies.
Darwin: "Dogs are very apt to hate both strange men and strange
dogs, especially if they live near at hand, but do not belong to the
same family, tribe, or clan; this feeling would thus seem to be
innate, and is certainly a most persistent one."
In fact, I would argue that a significant part of the enthusiasm about "diversity" results from having surmounted one's own racial feelings --
Bullshit.
Jared Taylor: "White liberals are openly, breathtakingly hypocritical. The appearance of racial rectitude is perhaps America’s most highly-regarded virtue, but it comes at essentially no cost.
You don’t have to have black friends, you don’t have to have Mexican neighbors, you don’t have to send your children to schools where no one speaks English, and you don’t have to invite Hmong refugees to your dinner parties. You can be racially respectable without doing anything. Just gush about the things you, yourself, carefully avoid: integration, multi-culturalism, and diversity.
"This is the Clinton/Kennedy/Bush racket.
"People get away with it because everyone is in on the charade. By any real racial test, by any measure that requires sacrifice, everyone fails, so whites never apply real tests to each other. Mouth the right clichés and you’re on the side of the angels. Racial rectitude is therefore the most cheaply bought virtue in American history— and also the most easily forfeited. Because only words matter, not deeds, a single sentence can wreck a career."
This is the beauty of anecdotal triumphalism. It appears virtuous at no cost. You just make shit up as you go along.
So Greece and its people are in many respects parasitic; the nation is overpopulated and they depend entirely upon Northern European and American support (importation of food, manufactured goods, etc) to stay afloat as a people and nation.
"Overpopulated"? "Depend entirely"?
You know, if your objective is to intensify yet further (if that's possible) resistance to racialist modes of thought and racialist politics I think you're on the right track, because this sort of nonsense tends only to reassure race-denying fuckwits. Look, you people know a couple of factoids about race and you think that somehow qualifies you to speak knowledgeably about all aspects of history, society and economics. Come on feller.
If you're talking about EU budget transfers -- which amount to a whopping 7-8% of per cap GDP -- then yes, okay, it makes some sense to say "parasitic." But take that away and the country wouldn't all of a sudden collapse -- I mean, you're hardly justified calling it "keeping the country afloat." Any food and manufactured goods they import they trade for, meaning they have something of perceived value to offer in return.
Anyway, Greece and Turkey, even though they're obviously more developed than Ukraine, aren't good comparisons because they never had the hard collectivism of the Soviet Union to emerge from. That's why I used the examples of Romanian and Bulgaria. The point was to simply illustrate that there's no straight line relationship between whiteness and economics. It may be that some day Ukraine rises and puts them all to shame. Hey, great for them. But at this point in time, they're not there. Similar to how in, say, 1650 Great Britain wasn't what it was in 1950. "Race matters," sure, but it's hardly the only thing that matters (wrt economics).
Southern Europeans are not Northern Europeans, and are not supposed to look like them.
This fact has finally penetrated your skull?
I've been trying to emphasize this. Northern Europeans are different from southern Europeans. When it comes to Northern European preservation, and racial preservation generally, difference itself is all that matters. The historical source or origin of the difference is irrelevant.
"There's nothing inherent about race that requires one to feel revulsion."
Lies. God damn lies.
You misunderstand. Along with the suspicion and anxiety one feels on encountering racial others one may also feel a degree of revulsion. But just as the suspicion and anxiety can lessen so can the revulsion.
Makes sense if you think about it. Humans are real-world objects and like all other real-world objects humans are able to develop a like or a dislike for them. Take expressionist art. One may not initially feel much fondness for it but it's possible that after studying it more closely one come to develop such a fondness. Same thing with humans.
Bullshit.
..."You can be racially respectable without doing anything."
Jared Taylor's a polemicist, so while that passage makes for good copy it isn't quite correct.
They are doing something: they are tolerating and advocating tolerance.
For your version of reality to be correct they shouldn't be able to do this. The minute they detected racial outsiders on their territory their defenses should have kicked into gear and never let up until the danger had been mitigated.
It's not what happens.
A person is totally capable of liking the fact of the different sorts of faces he sees without interacting with any of them or even without having any inclination to interact with them -- a fondness for living amid racial diversity per se.
Now, as I've said, this sort of fondness for diversity is typically a function (an exponential function I've smirked, but it's probably correct) of one's distance from it. You live in an all white area it's easy to have a liking for the people at the mall. You live smack dab in the middle of it all, that's another story.
This is the beauty of anecdotal triumphalism. It appears virtuous at no cost. You just make shit up as you go along.
I guess you'd know, eh. What's your problem with me anyway that you have to jump down my throat each time I open my mouth?
Silver: I think you should start up a new blog and just use it to archive your best comments from here.
No extra effort required.
"Ancient Greece did have a large swarthoid population that comprised the slaves and lower orders. This segment was the basis of Ancient Greece's decline and degeneration as it increased to an overwhelming tide."
----> LOL, sure, while the blonde haired blue eyed people around Scandiniavia and the Baltic couldn't even write their own names for the next 1,000 years. I'm sure it was those illiterate Northerners who created the civilization of ancient Greece.
Hold On, let me go check page 78 of March Of The Titans for confirmation, lol
"This fact has finally penetrated your skull?
I've been trying to emphasize this. Northern Europeans are different from southern Europeans. When it comes to Northern European preservation, and racial preservation generally, difference itself is all that matters. The historical source or origin of the difference is irrelevant."
No shit Sherlock, do you think I'm obsessed with trying to feel as a racial kinsmen with a Northern European? lol like that Italian retard who used to come around here named Rienzi?
These Southern European 'white nationalists' are total clowns. I feel closer to Jews, biologically and culturally. Not to mention they intellectually dominate Northern Europeans so it always makes me laugh Northern Europeans claiming superiority over them or us despite being dominated by a people they outnumber like 40 t0 1.
I hope you all keep up your low birth rates, keep importing blacks and mestizos into your nations, and keep mongrelizing yourselves into oblivion to be honest. It's just so cute seeing all those blonde children and Northern European airheads holding up their Obama posters. I think I want to go watch "Remember the Titans" or "Invictus" so I can see more Nordic-Negroid bonding, LMFAO
Genetic map of Europe based on 300,000 SNPs.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1567/tian2009fig1a.png
As we can see, there is a Northern and Southern cluster. The Northern cluster starting with Swedes and Ending with Southern Germans, the Southern cluster starting with Spaniards and ending with Southern Italians and Greeks. Northern Italians and Tuscans group absolutely in the Southern cluster and pull further below Spaniards. This proves the largest differences in Europe are between the North and South, and the Swiss and Dinaric Alps provide a barrier.
SOURCE : Tian et al. (2009) European Population Genetic Substructure: Further Definition of Ancestry Informative Markers for Distinguishing Among Diverse European Ethnic Groups.
"Anonymous said...
These Southern European 'white nationalists' are total clowns."
They are indeed, but they are not the biggest clown however. The biggest clowns have got to be closer to something like Kaukazian (Caucasus Hither Asiatics from Georgia, Armenia and such) "White Nationalists" or Iranian/Persian "White Nationalists". Such as Nordwavearmenia or the Iranian Aryan National Front among many others. They are the biggest clowns because while Southern Europeans could be missleaded to believe that all Europeans are "the same" due to the political climate, this while being the case for Southern Europeans it is however not case for countries like Iran, Armenia, Goergia and such were the political climate over there is not depicting it's population as being "the same" as the population of Europe (and especially not Northwestern Europe).
To my critic: based on our discussions, do you honestly think if I were the "boss of America" (or Canada, or Australia) you wouldn't get 95% of what you wanted? The 5% (or 10% or 20% depending on how lenient you are) is my resistance to the idea that innocents should be forced to suffer for infringements they were unaware of or didn't intend; on the bright side there's no question you'd end up with your race to have and to hold, in perpetuity, which when you get down to it is what you really want. So, really, what's the source of your constant snide bitching? You're upset? A great many people are. Welcome to earth. You're pissed off at me personally, that I had the temerity to proffer my opinion, or that events could have so conspired that you even have to have this discussion with me? Again, welcome to earth, pal. And think about it, if you make it through this crucible won't you come out better for it in the long run? Course you will. So hey life's a daring adventure or it's nothing, right?
Anyway, in the short run, there's no question that 'limited separation' (city-wide, say) based on what really occurs racially (not the fantasy nutzi version in which whites AAALLLL can't stand other races but are hushing it up) could be a winner. It's not even a white thing. As if other races don't feel it. (Shit, blacks and latins? If ANYONE feels it's them.) For the working class white there will never have been a freer lunch. Jared Taylor calls it freedom of association. Well, okay. He's got his ear to the ground so if that's what it needs to call itself, fine. Personally, I'd be much more specific and legalistically explicit, but whatever. Maybe a non-white (or semi,pseudo or off-white) would do better as its face.
Silver: I think you should start up a new blog and just use it to archive your best comments from here.
No extra effort required.
You think so? Okay, how about you collate them and email them to me:
silviosilver@auswww.com and I'll post 'em and resume writing there.
These Southern European 'white nationalists' are total clowns.
They're not total clowns. You have to take into account American history. When they arrived they earned the classification "white." It was certainly sternly contested but, as I point out, humans (at least white/ish ones) historically yield -- "ah, they're okay, let 'em in." Of course most of them knew it was just a legal fiction and that society didn't really accept them. Nevertheless, given that history it's not as surprising as it would otherwise be that quite a few of them declare themselves WNs.
That's one reason.
Other reasons are that people tend to seek out people similar to themselves. When they move beyond their own ethnicity the first thing they look for is ethnies with similar racial characteristics. Failing the racial test they seek out cultural similarities to bridge the gap with. In terms of fostering amicable relations, this stuff works. So here too it's unsurprising that southern Europeans would lay claim to belonging to a broader white identity. Racial preservation, which seeks to reverse these natural processes, unfortunately cannot accommodate every claimant and this is the source of the often bitter feuding.
Jews, who truly were on the receiving end of a nordish racial awakening (despite perhaps fudging the numbers of dead or the nature of their demise), as well probably being naturally somewhat more farseeing, steer well clear of (factual) race and genes talk that southern european types too often jump headfirst into. (I would argue that despite being farseeing they're not farseeing enough. But that's another story.) As far as racial appearance goes they vary from being indistinguishable from southeastern europeans to northeastern europeans; I can't say I've ever seen one I'd mistake for a germanic type, although they might exist. I have to believe they feel let down, to say the least, by the stab in the back they're getting from "white ethnic" stock who, if the racialist account of history holds true (Jews tricked us!), never would have made it as far in America as they eventually did. (I dispute that account.)
No shit Sherlock, do you think I'm obsessed with trying to feel as a racial kinsmen with a Northern European? lol like that Italian retard who used to come around here named Rienzi?
I can't believe I'm about to defend Mike Rienzi, but look, in his personal case it's not what I'd call 'retarded.'
A lot of Italians do approximate that basic central european sort of appearance that the vast majority of today's Americans would unhesitatingly call "white." Some of these guys have been in America for well over 100 years. That's a blink of an eye in the history and potential future of a race but it's plenty in the ethnic terms of a country as young as the USA. Plenty of other southern and southeastern europeans find themselves in a similar predicament -- yes, they're individually a basic kind of White, largely indistinguishable from most others, but they tend to be aware of their ethnic background and perhaps retain or have formed family or friendship bonds with members of that ethny, so they attempt to get whole ethny through the door, which, needless to say, doesn't sell.
One of the ugliest aspects of naked, unvarnished racialism is its effect on such mixed ethnies. (Keep your hair on, folks, only "mildly mixed". :) ) One part of the ethny all of a sudden going from never before having had a problem to turning on and despising another part. What fucking world are racialists living on that they wouldn't expect this to be furiously resisted? Nevertheless, times being what they are you have to expect some segments of the ethny will stir up trouble. A government funded ...er we'll need to find something else for the dreaded 'e-word'... program intended to replenish the most recessive elements of the ethny, in order to attempt to keep its totality intact, could be relied upon to calm the troublesome elements. (Northern countries could do the same, too, mind you. I'm sure the Robert Campbells and our own n/a and others NWAs (nordics wit attitude!) could see the value in that.)
I hope you all keep up your low birth rates, keep importing blacks and mestizos into your nations, and keep mongrelizing yourselves into oblivion to be honest. It's just so cute seeing all those blonde children and Northern European airheads holding up their Obama posters. I think I want to go watch "Remember the Titans" or "Invictus" so I can see more Nordic-Negroid bonding, LMFAO
The mask comes off and the face of pure hatred is revealed. You are a genocidal maniac.
Wasn´t Robert Campbell buddy-buddy with the so-called millionaire nazi Bill White? Didn´t they do dozens of radio shows together? USA is indeed a young country, so young they don´t even know who they are and who they aint.
Yes. Robert Campbell was "Jarl" on Bill White's radio show as a frequent guest/co-host.
Silver wont rest until Pakis like himself are welcomed as whites.
"Silver said...
One of the ugliest aspects of naked, unvarnished racialism is its effect on such mixed ethnies. (Keep your hair on, folks, only "mildly mixed". :) ) One part of the ethny all of a sudden going from never before having had a problem to turning on and despising another part. What fucking world are racialists living on that they wouldn't expect this to be furiously resisted? Nevertheless, times being what they are you have to expect some segments of the ethny will stir up trouble."
What a joke, ethnic-mixing is the same thing as race-mixing, especially in the case of Southern European/Northern Europeans.
Take Leonardo Dicaprio for example of an "ethnic mix", his mother is German and his father is Italian and no surprise like 95% of Southern Europeans George Dicaprio is a non-white sandniggerish kike WOG:
George Dicaprio:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8573/r69r69.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1725/r70r70.jpg
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4008/r71r71.jpg
When he was young Leonardo didn't look too offish in the Nordish spectrum especially with it's bottle blond hairs and such, but as he grew old like many italian shitskins his head grew bigger like a round watermelon, his complexion became darker and now he looks like this:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7034/r73r73m.jpg
I see, he associates with only the finest elements of the nordish race.
Pakis from northern India are the original Aryans.
"Anonymous said...
The mask comes off and the face of pure hatred is revealed. You are a genocidal maniac."
He's just a mediterranean saying mediterranean swarthoid-like things, no need to get shocked and at least he is being honest (unlike the majority of mediterraneans whom like jews hide their true feelings away).
Does anybody know if MP3s of Bill White´s show available anywhere on the net?
Silver: I think you should start up a new blog and just use it to archive your best comments from here.
No extra effort required.
Oh yeah, a concern troll's endless bloviating on racial matters, that'll be a big hit.
Silver is missing a crucial distinction in his arguments, how people behave online and in person are two different things. Criticizing online behavior is pointless.
"Anonymous said...
Pakis from northern India are the original Aryans."
The Aryan element from Pakistan are all mixed with vedoids negritos, so they are not "Aryan" anything anymore, but a very small minority of them managed to remain more or less pure (hence non-mixed with negritos).
Here are a couple of these:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2279/r74r74.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5052/r75r75.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4507/r76r76.jpg
While they certainly look White unlike 95% of Southern Europeans, keep in mind that those are just exceptions and that most of the Aryan survivors now are concentrated between Götaland (Sweden) and Østlandet (Norway) and not Northern India.
Oh yeah, a concern troll's endless bloviating on racial matters, that'll be a big hit.
Thing is, I don't see anybody else on the Internet providing these direct criticisms of racialism from a race-conscious perspective. That makes Silver's opinions uniquely valuable and I'd like to see them in an easy-to-access format.
Silver is missing a crucial distinction in his arguments, how people behave online and in person are two different things. Criticizing online behavior is pointless.
You have a point about this distinction, but I don't think it's completely pointless. Ideas are ideas.
Silver is missing a crucial distinction in his arguments, how people behave online and in person are two different things. Criticizing online behavior is pointless.
Is that what I'm doing, is it, criticizing online behavior?
I think "bloviating endlessly" describes what you people have been doing for the past forty years.
In any case, hey, it's only people's very futures at stake. Perish the thought they'd something to say about it!
You have a point about this distinction, but I don't think it's completely pointless. Ideas are ideas.
He doesn't have a point. I'd have no trouble saying the same things (minus insulting things I've said) in real life, person to person or to a crowd. But it's not about what one person is prepared to say. It's what people -- the masses and the powerful -- can be swayed to think and to act on. If you're going to act in the real world it obviously matters what ideas you've been influenced by, even if you can't control what actually transpires (and you can't).
Silver learned everything he needs to know about "swaying" the masses by banging transexual Thai hookers in Thailand. He has it down to an art form.
^^^ Then he must be truely nordic.
"Anonymous said...
Silver learned everything he needs to know about "swaying" the masses by banging transexual Thai hookers in Thailand. He has it down to an art form."
Considering that he is a mediterranean it is not surprising, swarthoids love this transexual stuff most and you can see that as the big majority of the transexual buisness comes from Brazil, Argentina, Italy and Spain and all of them are Mediterranean swarthoid countries.
"Brazil is also well-known for gay and transsexual pornography."
"Argentina is emerging as another source for transsexual porn."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_Latin_America
Those mditerraneans aren't only swarthoid nonwhites, they're faggots too! The term "subnigger" fits them even more so.
Rassenhygieniker is just mad the swarthoid woggish Kikes have his Nordic master race on total lock down. The last Nordic guy who said something racist out in public was like Dog the Bounty Hunter and he ended up crying his eyes out on national TV apologizing like a little effeminate queer.
Nordic racialism has become literally impotent. Just look at Britain, in Britain the entire country is ran by Jews and their nationalism is a total Joke. In 50 years Sharia Law will probably rule Britian.
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"A lot of Italians do approximate that basic central european sort of appearance that the vast majority of today's Americans would unhesitatingly call "white." Some of these guys have been in America for well over 100 years. That's a blink of an eye in the history and potential future of a race but it's plenty in the ethnic terms of a country as young as the USA. Plenty of other southern and southeastern europeans find themselves in a similar predicament -- yes, they're individually a basic kind of White, largely indistinguishable from most others, but they tend to be aware of their ethnic background and perhaps retain or have formed family or friendship bonds with members of that ethny, so they attempt to get whole ethny through the door, which, needless to say, doesn't sell."
---> This is what I am too, I obviously prefer the company of Northern Europeans to Negroids or Mestizos...as far as breeding I prefer Mediterranean women, then maybe Northern or Eastern European women, you can't tell me you think N. European women are more beautiful than our women though. Monica Bellucci does it for me. I could also find nothing wrong from my own racial perspective breeding with a Ashkenazi Jewish girl, or an Armenian or Georgian girl.
As for tribalism, you and Reinzi should realize that you are Southern European, and your loyalty should be to your people first. Begging some Northern European clowns to belong in their fantasy race category or fantasy racialist state that will never form, is beyond pathetic. The Jews for instance could have easily let their own bloodlines go and assimilated and merged with the Northern Europeans, they didn't, and instead took total power for themselves.
"Jews, who truly were on the receiving end of a nordish racial awakening."
The Jews were ALWAYS awake, racially. The 'Nordish' finally woke up in the 18-19th century. The second world war little more than Jews using American Nordic masses, as well as illiterate Slavic hordes to do their dirty work and take down their nemesis, which was the Third Reich. And why not use them as cannon fodder? lol
The people who incinerated Dresden were short sited Nordic Englishmen and Nordic American men who were being used as tools. Now the descendants of these men are going to be minorities in their own country soon, they're being physically replaced, lol
Even I'll admit the third Reich was a stroke of genius, short lived as it was.
The Northern Europeans certainly had their time in history, but they fucked up, they fucked up bigtime...they're totally dominated and they're controlled, they're done.
Anyways Silver you little Nordic wannabe 'house nigger' wake up and smell the coffee. The Northern Europeans are not our biological allies. Ask yourself one question, where does every piece of anti Southern European propaganda come from? It comes from Northern Europeans, no one else.
I feel closer to Jews, biologically and culturally. Not to mention they intellectually dominate Northern Europeans so it always makes me laugh Northern Europeans claiming superiority over them or us despite being dominated by a people they outnumber like 40 t0 1.
Questions of "superiority" have no bearing on the issue of preservation, but that is beyond the comprehension of a genocidal exterminationist who delights in the annihilation of races he dislikes.
Add to that the fact that 80% of nordic America´s dollars are owned by the communist central bank of China. And nordic Britain is just as broke as Ireland or southern Europe. And then there Iceland - don´t even go there.
"Questions of "superiority" have no bearing on the issue of preservation"
---> Sure I agree with that.
As far Superiority goes, Nordics are superior at some things, inferior at others. IQ wise they are on average superior to Southern Europeans, but significantly inferior to Jews. Anyways, I don't think that's very important. Mediterraneans could breed their most intelligent stock, limit the breeding of their least intelligent stock, and pass up Nordics within a few generations, and even pass up Jews. And Jews anyways are our racial cousins, where you are all more like distant cousins.
Add mass importation of third worlders into once predominately Nordish lands, with low Nordish birth rates, and the average blonde airhead's propensity to breed with non whites and create little nappy haired mixed race litters, we'll see the Nordish people gone soon enough...within several lifetimes. Or at least diminished to such an insignificant number they are no threat to anyone.
He's just a mediterranean saying mediterranean swarthoid-like things, no need to get shocked and at least he is being honest (unlike the majority of mediterraneans whom like jews hide their true feelings away).
Yes, at least he is honest about his genocidal desires.
Reginald is another mediterranean who said Northern Europeans "deserve execution," "deserve the gas chamber," and "will not be missed" after their "annihilation from the face of the earth."
after studying it more closely one come to develop such a fondness.
This is the madness of Lysenko. Next we'll discover that the fondness for expressionist art is a heritable trait passed on to the children. There is no evidential basis for the assertion. It's entirely fabricated.
They are doing something: they are tolerating and advocating tolerance.
They tolerate nothing. They don't live with or anywhere near niggers. They don't live with crackers and hillbillies either. It's simply serving their own interest. Are you really that thick?
"Putnam's recent study on diversity involved nearly 30,000 people in 41 communities. He found that the more diverse neighborhoods are the less social capital they create. People in diverse communities volunteer less, give to charity less, vote less and work on less community projects. The simple fact is that people do not trust people they share little in common with. As President Clinton's Secretary of Labor Robert Reich pointed out, the rich do not want pay taxes to help the poor when they do not see any commonality with them."
What's your problem with me anyway that you have to jump down my throat each time I open my mouth?
It's because you make shit up! You cannot substantiate one fucking thing you say! Those who create the lies will always repeat them.
Contrast the genocidal, exterminationist, and extinctionist rage of Reginald, Cyd, and anonymous here with the reasoned preservationist and conservationist perspective in the original post.
Yes, at least he is honest about his genocidal desires.
Reginald is another mediterranean who said Northern Europeans "deserve execution," "deserve the gas chamber," and "will not be missed" after their "annihilation from the face of the earth."
Well that is a good, the more the mediterraneans show their true colours and their true desires, the better for us racial preservationists to point out the alien way of thinking of these desert dwelling races.
They don't care about race or anything that we care for, because they are the result of race mixing so there is nothing that they can nor want to preserve, they can only and want to destroy what they can never achieve for themselves, as a way to bring everything down to their level and hence make themselves "equal".
It is understandable that they hate us and that is for the better for us to identify our racial enemies (which are not only jews like other places would have you believe), but they hate us not for no reasons, obviously Reginald is one of those obviously mediterraneans who have an inferiority complex toward Nordic people and at the same time lust after nordic women, quite a typical case actually.
Other mediterraneans are less simple-minded and hate us for other reasons, such as jew-like reasons. For example jews and mediterraneans knows that they are not pure europids (even if they won't admit in public for political reasons among others) and due to this they feel inferior to the taller, smarter, stronger and purer Europids from Northwestern Europe. This is especially the case amongst mediterraneans who live in a Nordish populated country (Italian-Americans, Greek-Australians and such), these kind of mediterraneans are not living in their arid desert-like climates populated by their fellow swarthy goblin-like ilks, so they feel cold, frail, small and alien compared to the population of their host nation, they find out that they are not as White as these populations so like the kikes they thinks of ways to make themselves "equal", so the jews and mediterraneans came out with the solution and it was to kill the Northwestern Europeans so that the jews and mediterraneans would become the new and only "whites".
You really like niggers, eh?
Just make clear to them that though you'll flatter than by saying they're better than Southern Europeans, you still consider them just a shade lower than Northern Europeans.
You can tell Seal this, for example, right after he completes his nightly banging of Heidi Klum.
---> This is what I am too, I obviously prefer the company of Northern Europeans to Negroids or Mestizos...as far as breeding I prefer Mediterranean women, then maybe Northern or Eastern European women, you can't tell me you think N. European women are more beautiful than our women though. Monica Bellucci does it for me. I could also find nothing wrong from my own racial perspective breeding with a Ashkenazi Jewish girl, or an Armenian or Georgian girl.
These discussions, besides being endless, are fundamentally flawed because they tend to compare only specimens from the highest echelons; since such specimens are so rarely encountered in real life one would be justified in disregarding any conclusions reached on this basis alone.
But there's an even better reason to disregard the "argument from beauty." What does it have to do with anything? Mostly people suffering from insecurities waste time discussing this. The vast majority of people of any race are of decidedly average aesthetic quality (doubt it? take a look around you, or, pardon my impertinence, in the mirror!); small comfort then that some rare bird among your own kind may have been ajudged "the best." It's like some environut conservationist taking comfort or, even crazier, being enthused and energized by the knowledge that somewhere on this planet the horned amazonian tree frog lives on. There are much better reasons for racial self-preference.
As for tribalism, you and Reinzi should realize that you are Southern European, and your loyalty should be to your people first. Begging some Northern European clowns to belong in their fantasy race category or fantasy racialist state that will never form, is beyond pathetic. The Jews for instance could have easily let their own bloodlines go and assimilated and merged with the Northern Europeans, they didn't, and instead took total power for themselves.
You must be new around here. I've always opposed Michael 'test, test, test yourself before your wreck yourself' Rienzi.
As for southern european tribalism there's never been a greater partisan! Remember, my blog was entitled "Accidental Dissent" (a play on Hunter's Occidental Dissent). "Accidental" in the sense that while I've always been heavily pro-med I discovered to my dismay that there were legions of dumb fucking wogs on the internet playing the nazis' game, and "dissent" in the sense that honesty and decency demands you admit the "nazis" have a case, and that the road all of us are traveling along leads to disaster. (And it's not a "fantasy category." That there aren't any clean breaks between racial groupings isn't an insurmountable obstacle.)
Get this dude: the reason I support the nordicists is that there's no other engine that will drive a racialist movement in n. america. Maybe the aztlaners getting serious would open up some eyes but aside from that it's going to have to come from founding stock americans, nordicists, germanicists, call them what you will, if it's going to come from anywhere. What I'm saying to people like you (assuming you're american) is that we can feed off that and help it along -- frankly even if it does mean that the hardliners among them prevail (an outside chance at this point because the majority of them seem terminally fucked in the head but it's still a chance) and there's "complete reconquest" rather than separation or partition and we're forced to skedaddle. I'd rather see such events unfold any day rather than sit around watching these places become one big chinatown or hindustan. American materialism is vastly overrated. I'd rather make $10k bucks per year and live around people I have something meaningful in common with than $200k sitting in an office with a pack of gooks, niggers and hindoos telling myself I've "made it." (Slurs used to emphasize angst and frustration, not to imply that I wish them ill or to suggest they themselves should in any way care about my characterization of them.)
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